Need some input on a recent hand.

1-2 no limit live game.

I'm in SB with QQ, stack is 400$

Action folds to button who sits for a few seconds and then raises the pot to 20$. Their stack size is 200$

I noticed a lot of players like to raise pretty large with their premiums so I start putting him on KK+ Akand maybe JJ or Aq.

I didn't want to fold as I had a great hand in SB. I chose to reraise since I was oop. Had I had position I might have called.

I reraise to 100$ villian jumps out of his chair pulling their headphones off and goes all in for his 200$.

I'm getting 3:1 so I call. I fear I was beat some times and he rolled over AA which held up.

I thought about it and I called pretty fast but I am starting to wonder if I had slowed down I may have got away from it but the pot odds were good so I don't feel too bad about it. Had I just called I think may have lost less and might have folded had he been aggressive on the flop and turn.

I feel the player could have had hands I beat. Granted I don't have that many hours watching this player but I don't get the impression they are super tight.

Any insights?

IMO its pretty hard to get away from QQ.
IF you put him on AA KK QQ JJ AKs you are still 43% probable.
Given your stack sizes if you were beaten it was not a "game ender" for you.
You were also getting good pot odds relative to your equity to make the call.

If you're getting 3:1 preflop on an all-in after 3betting, the problem might be your 3bet sizing.

If you have 52o and make it $160 preflop, you're getting 9:1 to call it off, which is a very good price. Doesn't mean the situation is in any way desirable.

Among all possible actions, the worst one is always the one where your opponent can play perfectly against you because he basically knows your hand.

I think your range for villain is VERY tight for a 1/2 live casino game. Do you have information about this SPECIFIC villain that would make you think his range is this tight?

As button if the action is folded to me, I will raise practically 50% of my hands. My raise sizing is fairly consistent. (I ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS raise in this situation if I decide to play. So,,, I either Raise or Fold on the button when folded to)

What has been your image so far at the table..... also that of BB. Are you both call stations so as button, I will determine that a blind steal will have little success?

Do you make it 10BB when action is folded to you on the button? He based his read on villains sizing. Maybe 10BB is his standard sizing, but I would say that's at least doubtful. The only players I know who always make it that big are the ones who only raise premium hands anyway.

Nope...big is not standard. More like $6-$12 range in a 1/2 live game. Depends on what I want to accomplish against what type of blinds I am facing. I do know one guy that likes $20...or even $20+, but he is an aberration in my game. I've made it $20...but not often; and more to villains than to my hand strength.

My point was I think the button raising here could mean so much more than just a premium hand.

The normal raise I had seen from this player was that usual 6-12ish$.

As far as my image in this session. I was pretty card dead but 15 mins before this hand I picked up AKd and 3 bet a raiser and he folded before show down. Also picked up AKo a few mins later. 3 bet another player who raised on a short stack. He shoved with QQ and won. His stack was only 20bb so not a big hand money wise. As board was running out he asked if I had KK. So that guy at least perceived me tight i suppose.

I see lots of min-reraising at these tables too. As well as lots of limping. I started the approach of never limping besides occasional limp getting great pot odds and in the blinds. I try to either raise or fold most of the time.

Scenario

Game 1-3 No limit

Hero, image is tight has played 4 hands in 2 hours and is sitting at 600$ and up 400$ in Session.

Villain, Super agro has been picked off a few times and gotten a few bluffs through. Opening to 16$ 8 out of 10 times is sitting at about 1400$

Villain re raises the straddle to 18$, folded to hero in late position who makes it 48$ with A10 Off, folded back to Villain who hesitates and makes the call. Flop comes A 9c 7c Villain checks hero bets 58$. Villain thinks for about 30 seconds and pops it to 168$ 110 more the hero. Thoughts? Will post more after for additional input.

Not sure why you posted your hand in this thread?

Don't bluff 3bet the guy who is most likely to outplay you. Don't bet the flop if you have no idea what to do if the guy who is most likely to outplay you raises your bet.

You are setting yourself up to play for stacks with a hand that is clearly out of your comfort zone. Otherwise you would have played more than 4 hands over the last two hours.

I am not saying that playing a 400BB pot with that guy might not be profitable even with a hand as weak as TPNK, but it's clearly not what you usually do. Also keep in mind that your opponent probably knows that you are extremely tight. So he doesn't expect for you to have such a weak made hand here.

Was my first post actually and it doesnt allow me to create a thread of my own lol so I posted it here,

My image is tight for a reason, it is only 1-3 and very few competent players. My intentions from the get go were to isolate this guy and expose his need to bluff every. I told myself if he reraised i was likely jamming because as i stated before he was raising, re raising 9 out of 10 hands.

+1.

I play far more touneys than cash, but raising here to 100 will accomplish two things: worse hands will fold, the good ones will shove and hero has to call.

That's a fair point, but I am pretty sure it would be significantly more profitable for you to do it with a stronger hand.

Agreed, A10 is the absolute bottom of my range in this particular hand. Against Villain though based off of what ive seen, any ace flopped is a made had IMO except for the odd time. So after the re raise from Villain I feel like I am either A Jamming or B folding. My thought process behind this is simple, I played the hand this way to induce a scenario like this against this particular villain. I believe given the spot i wanted to be in with him folding here is super weak otherwise why did I put myself in this spot, Calling is not an option it just allows villain to hit a potential flush and not much improves my hand unless an ace hits, even the 10 isnt all that appealing. So I decide to Get it all in which was another 300ish on top of his 110, thoughts?

By shoving, you deprive him of the chance to bluff on the turn. That's not what you want if you think his range has little equity against your hand. The only reason to shove would be a range that consists of lots of draws. So, as always, it depends on the range you put him on.

To the OP.

The 3bet, as everyone mentioned, is too big. I'd go to 50 for a couple of reasons. First, the effective stacks are 200. He's being denied odds to set mine. We'll collect a nice pot from just about anything worse that he has. Second, if he comes over the top like he did, it is an easy fold without a read at 1/2. His range is AA with a slight mix of KK. We can't beat either of those. We've committed only 25% of the effective stacks, so the fold isn't that punishing for us.

Thanks for the input guys. I do agree the 3bet was too large and next similar situation I'm going to give more consideration to folding.

Newbie question if when it is checked and no else has raised, you say that you always either raise or fold, would it not always be good to call instead of the times youbfold as only have make up the blinds?.

Why do you think it is a good idea to call with a hand like 62o?

Only?

I said: If I am on the button and the hand gets folded to me....... (the quoted above suggests you are thinking others are in the pot? )

Calling does not have the chance of stealing the blinds.

Think about it like this: WE are playing our entire 50% range. 50% includes a HUGE amount of losing hands. We raise everything to have our premiums (99+, AQ+) protect out rags (64s+, K5o+, 76o+).

We don't really like "wasting" our premiums this way (we prefer villain to play against our AA when OOP, correct?)......[consider --->] but over our entire range, we make way more money when we raise everything and both blinds always fold....correct?

Your intention of raising to $100 should be to get the money in the middle. If you are afraid to put your stack in the middle with QQ this could mean you don't have sufficient bankroll to play. Like you said villains range could be JJ+,AK,AQ.
Raise 65-70

whats his range if you get called and go all in. if its weaker than your hand play on.
if you dont know go by the rules that says when someone is betting unusually big then they have an unusually big hand.

I don't think that was their point ... the point is "What hands are going to continue in the hand when you 3bet so large?" Most of the time when you bet you want to make sure that you are keeping it open to as many hands that you beat to continue as possible.

In your exact hand I would give even more consideration to folding QQ than a 'normal' 4-bet in live 1/2. Your issue was you were trapped by your stack and really should call it off here based on your V range.

Lots of other good advice here ... Pay attention to when a 'green' guy is posting, it will be pretty much the nuts ... and you got two of them to post!

Welcome to the forum .. GL

PS ... and don't forget the 'red' guys either ...