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10-19-2017 , 02:02 PM
Hello does anyone have a good push fold chart for microstakes MTTs(<11$)?
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10-19-2017 , 04:01 PM
look up "Kill Everyone", you'll find the charts
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10-19-2017 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by sw_emigre
look up "Kill Everyone", you'll find the charts
Yeah, I know this one is it still usable today? I mean I'm sure it is to an extent but I was wondering is there any newer stuff for microstakes MTTs or these stuff don't really go out of date?
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10-19-2017 , 07:13 PM
I found something i'm interested in opinions about it?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...sle=true#gid=3
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10-19-2017 , 08:32 PM
don't take this the wrong way, but if you're at the stage in you career where you need to ask a question like this, KE charts are plenty fine for you.
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10-19-2017 , 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by sw_emigre
don't take this the wrong way, but if you're at the stage in you career where you need to ask a question like this, KE charts are plenty fine for you.
Well I play( and moderatly beat) NL 25/ NL50 so I am not a complete newbie, I just don't really play alot of tournaments and I feel learning proper push/ folding ranges is one of the easiest improvments I can make. Do you mind checking the link I pasted in 4th post of the thread if those charts work too?
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10-20-2017 , 09:38 PM
Jennifear is the original go-to chart. AFAIK it's still great. Only thing about it is, as you can see, it's hella dense. KE is essentially a simplified version. I'm sure the MTT pros have those kinda numbers in their head, but I've been a decent winner in midsize MTTs for a couple years with KE.

The thing you'll find with the charts is that they are based on V's who correctly push, and also will correctly call. In general, recs push way tighter, so you should be folding tighter vs many of them. You also have to adjust for rec blinds who won't be able to fold Ax or any PP; they have little to no understanding of ICM and how calling too wide is an ICM disaster for both parties.

I'd say if I've adapted my style to soft fields (imo the only fields worth playing!), I shove a shade tighter than the charts, since other people making mistakes is something you can count on. I still have a much higher shove range than average in my fields, so picking up blinds isn't too much of a problem.

May the odds be ever in your favor.
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10-21-2017 , 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by sw_emigre
Jennifear is the original go-to chart. AFAIK it's still great. Only thing about it is, as you can see, it's hella dense. KE is essentially a simplified version. I'm sure the MTT pros have those kinda numbers in their head, but I've been a decent winner in midsize MTTs for a couple years with KE.

The thing you'll find with the charts is that they are based on V's who correctly push, and also will correctly call. In general, recs push way tighter, so you should be folding tighter vs many of them. You also have to adjust for rec blinds who won't be able to fold Ax or any PP; they have little to no understanding of ICM and how calling too wide is an ICM disaster for both parties.

I'd say if I've adapted my style to soft fields (imo the only fields worth playing!), I shove a shade tighter than the charts, since other people making mistakes is something you can count on. I still have a much higher shove range than average in my fields, so picking up blinds isn't too much of a problem.

May the odds be ever in your favor.
I see, thanks alot for the detailed explanation. I also play pretty low mostly <11$ MTTs with occassional 22$ now and there so considering I probably play better posttflop than average player in these games should I be reluctant to shove "religiosly by chart" at 15BB and above or is it still more profitable to pretty much follow the chart at all times and being a shade tighter as you said? What I'm asking is how much do you deviate from what charts say at above 13-15BB if you think you have a postflop edge?
Below is a good example, this is a push considering 10% antes by Jennifear:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...40/?highlight=

Last edited by Puma1; 10-21-2017 at 06:55 AM.
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