Hey guys, this is my first ever post on here so just go easy on me if I write incorrectly or post out of place.

So I've been playing online for a while and am a losing player on stars, I do manage a profit on other sites but consistently lose on stars. I have a 95k hand sample on pokertracker and I've been getting crushed in my BB (-5,765 BB in 11,600 Hands) First off, just how terrible is that??? Not sure what a good BB lose rate should be!!

My SB is (-2,033 BB in 11,530 Hands) Figured this may be worth noting, every other position is plus BB so I obviously need a pile of work in these areas.

Any help at all would be much appreciated!!!!

Thanks

think what happens every time you have junk in the big blind and fold

So do those numbers look pretty normal or worse than average?

I'm pointing out that you're supposed to lose money in the blinds

Everyone loses in the blinds, but -49bb/100 in the BB is quite bad. (I've seen much worse, though. Something like -35bb/100 would be more typical). Are you profitable in UTG-BTN? There are a million possible reasons why you're losing more than expected among winning players. You might be playing too loose in the blinds, or conversely you might be too tight, or be playing too passively, or even too aggressively. Results are also subject to huge amounts of variance. The BB is a hard position to play correctly, but it's an important one to get right, so I'd recommend focusing on learning how to defend vs the button in particular, as BTN v BB is the most common situation, and winning those battles is how you win the war.

Online play is HUGE on stats ...
1) Do you defend light because 'the price is right' and then fold Flop/Turn to any aggression? Thus increasing your loss.
2) Do you flat when you should 3-bet? (Not too often though, OOP is not fun online)
3) Do you make your premiums obvious when in the Blinds? Thus losing value.

I know this is no help .. but .. lose less and win more! GL

The simplest explanation is most likely the correct one. Your playing hands from the bb that you wouldn't play from any other position because you feel priced in. Worse hands pre make worse hands post. Worse hands post win less pots.
There is going to be some spots where this is correct but if you are playing rag hands from this position it should be on the basis that you'r trying to flop a very strong hand.
Imagine a hand in which a tight utg opponent opens 3x, 4 players call and you are in the bb with 64s. You call and the flop comes K62 rainbow. This should be the end of your involvement in the hand. If you can't get away from a hand post flop with minimal loss then don't play speculative/thrash hands from this position.

Here are a few results from a button steal vs BB model I have. This of course is from a strictly math perspective and should be considered only one of the many factors involved in a poker decision. The complement of the minimum BB fold equity for Button +EV is the minimum BB call probability from the BB viewpoint. For Button equity of 0%, that is known as the Minimum Defense Frequency (MDF)

Required Fold Equity For Button Steal
of BB With Given Card Equity

Button	Button	Maximum BB
Equity	Bet(bb)	Fold Prob
0%	2	57.1.%
0%	3	66.7%
0%	5	76.9%
20%	2	42.3%
20%	3	53.1%
20%	5	65.9%

Example: With 20% equity, button can effectively steal the pot from the big blind if the big blind will fold to a 5bb bet at least 65.9% of the time or equivalently, the BB calls less than 34.1%.

Excellent, I appreciate the great info. I've attached my stats for the rest of the positions, as I said I do win in the cutoff and the button but I'm unsure if I'm winning at a high enough rate. Have a look and tell me what stands out to you!!

Thanks again!

Position Hands VPIP PFR Chips Won
BUTTON 11,395 23.73 19.57 1,476,270
CO 11,432 20.79 18 4,908,379
MP+2 6,564 19.12 16.55 108,802
MP+1 9,754 17.7 16.17 -1,034,915
MP 11,107 17.79 16.63 1,813,889
UTG+1 10,643 15.54 14.82 2,302,666
UTG 11,304 14.98 14.81 2,613,979
BB 11,600 27.47 10.58 -11,639,534
SB 11,530 24.11 17.14 -6,453,226

OOPs. The third column should be Minimum Fold Prob., which was labelled wrong in my previous post

Required Fold Equity For Button Steal
of BB With Given Card Equity

Button	Button	Minimum BB
Equity	Bet(bb)	Fold Prob
0%	2	57.1.%
0%	3	66.7%
0%	5	76.9%
20%	2	42.3%
20%	3	53.1%
20%	5	65.9%

Example: With 20% equity, button can effectively steal the pot from the big blind if the big blind will fold to a 5bb bet at least 65.9% of the time or equivalently, the BB calls less than 34.1%

It really depends on the dynamics of the game (including sizings), but your BB VPIP should usually be something similar to your CO VPIP. It looks like you're lacking a bit of positional awareness, as you're a bit too loose in EP and the BB, but a bit tighter than most on the BTN. You should be trying to play more pots in position (CO and BTN especially) and fewer when OOP (EP and the blinds).
To immediately try and save yourself some chips, I'd recommend being a bit tighter in the BB. Once you've got more experience/confidence about playing the other positions, you'll be able to profitable defend with the weaker/wider range that's commonly played in the BB.