partypoker - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $26.70 (VPIP: 23.40, PFR: 19.57, 3Bet Preflop: 3.33, Hands: 249)
SB: $12.13 (VPIP: 30.43, PFR: 30.43, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 23)
BB: $10.97 (VPIP: 25.19, PFR: 20.61, 3Bet Preflop: 12.28, Hands: 139)
Hero (UTG): $26.46
MP: $7.20 (VPIP: 27.13, PFR: 20.93, 3Bet Preflop: 9.62, Hands: 132)
CO: $10.00 (VPIP: 27.14, PFR: 22.86, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 71)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has Q Q

Hero raises to $0.30, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.90, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.95, 2 players) 9 Q 6
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.24, Hero raises to $3.41, BTN calls $2.17

Turn: ($8.77, 2 players) 6
Hero bets $2.91, BTN calls $2.91

River: ($14.59, 2 players) 7
Hero bets $19.24 and is all-in, BTN calls $19.24






I should of raised flop bigger thats for sure, the under bet on the Turn was thought out though to look bluffy, I feel like a got lucky by getting max

BBV is in a different section .. thought you were going to show V = 88 here ...

A touch more on the Flop raise and Turn bet would allow you to shove for less than pot on the River. The key is to play the hand the same with AQ/Q9 as you would QQ otherwise you may not get paid off on the River by less. GL

People don't say "poker is dead" because hands like that don't happen anymore but because ten years ago the hand would have played out the same way at 5/10 instead of 0.05/0.10.

Not too much to say about the line, the guy apparently doesn't want to fold aces so he would also have called $5 on the flop, $9 on the turn and river shove. And everything in between.

How do you think the hand would play out differently at nosebleed stakes today?

Why didn't you 4bet pre? The line you'v taken is ok but the sizing seems off. Definitely go larger ott. Once villain calls the flop x/r you can take it they'r TPTK+ and probably can't get away from this or overpairs ott regardless of what you bet.
I haven't checked the spoiler but it does seem like villain has made a big mistake calling your overbet otr so you probably have gotten lucky to an extent.

Villain would use his HUD and not to determine that heros range is totally unbalanced towards nuts (because that's what microstakes players have when overbetting the river) and act accordingly.

I would usually 4-bet pre, but if I just call then I probably check-call the flop (I'm not sure, though, as you're deep). If villain has a hand that will pay off (i.e. KK+/AQ), then he's going to barrel most turns and then you can raise. He's not going to barrel with AK or worse very often unless you just call the flop to make it look like you have JJ/TT. When you check-raise, he can basically only continue with KK+/AQ, so you should be betting bigger on the turn to set up a routine shove of < pot on the river.
Your small turn bet doesn't look bluffy. It looks like you have QQ or 99 (or possibly even quads) that wants to get paid off by aces. You have no bluffs in your range when you check-raise that flop unless you're in the habit of calling 3-bets OOP with JTs.
FWIW, I see nothing wrong with villain's line. He has to call the river with something, and AA is about the best hand he can have. (Occasionally he has one combo of 76s that gets horribly coolered).

Play is affected by Deepness.

I called pre because I was deep, Its a Zoom variant which is relevant in general to stack off ranges are tighter and thighten even more when theres 260bb going into the middle pre. If I 4bet and He Jams I fold, extra bb's gone. If he flats my 4bet, Im playing it oop anyway.


So I flatted to set mine/keep dominated hands in (AQs JJ TT AJs AKos) considereing there's plenty of play left behind, So ranges could be, but I doubt wide.

and play a flop.

Flop is da dags billix,, so now Im thinking value. at the time my thinking was, make smaller so get calls by hands that might want to 2 pair on turn etc, when he called, I thought Ill bet small to look bluff/scared (I do underbetbluff and overbet bluff on both turn and river, obviously I over bet the river more.
not that he knows that but I do make moves from time to time in pots worth winning.

I disagree that he has to call on the river and AA is about as good as it is, well AA is nothing more than a bluff catcher here. and if he snaps a 1.4 overbet I assuming because he thinks Im not desperate to get my "bad" money back. He defo does not need to call the river at ALL.

It cant be both, I either never have bluffs there, or I sometimes have bluffs there its the latter. especially on the river, I've been getting decent at finding capped ranges to push off on the river with over bets or 1/3 pot bets.

So if Im never bluffing in villains eyes, why snap with a bluff catcher, cause its not like he under repped it pre.

Yes thats what most Micro players have, and watching them call the river time and time again to see the nuts, has made picking weak ranges a nice money maker by over jamming the river vs their capped ranges.

Balugatheorem excreases on the River

Cause its Zoom and they oft have the nuts vs an early open, so either 4bet and stick it in a 20% dog, and fold out all the things I beat and get snapped by everything that beats me cept AK,. Folded equity in maybe huge pot is a big no no to me, I mean if your deep enough QQ are still just a pair of QQ, **** KK's dont go in pre this deep sometimes.

By playing a non standard style, I was hoping to sell a non reg/weirdo player. and part of me thinks that why he snapped the aces


plus his 3% 3bet, isnt far off QQ+ AK+ so maybe JJ+ AK+ , Its prob not QQ since we have one,. JJ JJ calls a 4bet always and in postion and so do AA and maybe kings, depending on how he plays his monstors. So,. since its not QQ (we have that) his 3% shrinks of what it could be. so now its KK+ AK+ which weights me 4betting more likely into hands that have me crushed., id rather play a hand flop and all oop than get QQ in 260bb even at 10nl



(to all higher stakes players, go play some 10NL zoom and tell us, is it the same micro beast?)

For the same reasons (depth of stacks) that you called with queens pre, you can also have KK or possibly even AA. If villain folds aces, he's folding 100% of his range, isn't he? He shouldn't expect to win very often with aces, but if he doesn't call at least some of the time, you could theoretically take your line with 100% of hands and print money, because villain would have no calling range.
At high stakes, I think most villains would fold kings on the river, but one simply doesn't fold the best overpair in 3-bet pots, unless the board is super-ugly (i.e. possible straights and flushes).
If/when you can legitimately show up with JTs, AA has to call. (FWIW, Snowie gives AA an EV of 0.00bb on the river, so it is literally breakeven and a sigh-call. It folds everything else.)

You’re hypothetical is about 5/T games, not micro players who suddenly find themselves playing way up against an opponent of greater skill than them.

Seeing these hands at showdown between two 5/T regs after this action would not be surprising. Seeing someone showdown with JJ, however, would be atrocious.

Hows snowie working out ? is it any good, ive been staying away cause I heard something about it telling you not to 5x it vs UG limp with TT , just thought not my style of play. but thats like tasting salt before the meal and saying I dont like the pasta lol

so hows you finding it ?

Also, JT is defo a possiblitity given stack sizes, just an unlikely shove, since I would want JT in his range rather than mine there. but I get what you are getting at..

Where you playing these days?

I find Snowie is useful for giving me a very quick look at what optimal ranges should (approximately) look like in most spots. It's less useful for analysing microstakes hands, because there are so many terrible players (e.g. limpers) and exploiting them means your strat is itself unbalanced/exploitable.
I'm playing nanostakes Zoom for lolz, and also some tourney satties on Unibet. I have a PGC thread for my swingy graphs.

Ill check you're thread out, I'll make a goals thread (AGAIN lol) for the same its a good idea.

Im going over to look at ur thread now,

quick question, do you stack AK+ QQ+ standard at zoom (hudless/readless) or are you finding that you get crushed mostly having QQ , or am I just seeing variance (i dont auto stack them anyway, but most times I did it was hudless on 888) didnt go well

In a word, yes, but it depends on positions (sometimes I flat-call 3-bets with QQ or even kings), but I've been known to get AQ and 99 in pre-flop. I almost always stack off AK, but there are occasional spots where I'll flat a 3b or 4b with it. FWIW, I've done horribly with JJ when I play that aggressively. It's possibly just sample size/variance, but it's been amazing how often I've 3-bet JJ in BBvBTN and faced a 4-bet that was literally always KK+, so I'm being a bit more cautious with jacks in particular.