please look at this statement:
I am inquiring about the math here. So in the math there, our call of the 3bet is being factored into pot odds. should we call, the pot goes to 11.5 bb. it does not directly look at the pot before the decision and do the calculation, it is not, "I'm getting 9.5 to 2 on a call."
Well, let's look at river spot. Let's say the pot is 10bb and villain bets 10bb on the river. There is now 20bb in the pot and we have to call 10bb, getting 2 to 1. We have to be right 1 in 3 times to break exactly even. We are not, however, factoring in our 10bb call. We are not saying there is 10bb out there, plus another 10bb bet by the villain, plus if I call another 10bb the pot will be 30bb and then divide by 10. We are not getting three to 1, we are getting 2 to 1. But this process differs than how the Upswing article stated. The US article factored in our call when calling as if the money was already in there.
I have run into this confusion before and I know I have asked about it. It is not until I read this or see it exemplified as such, that I get confused. Why the differences in math here, what am I missing?
edit: now doing some math I guess I am reaching some conclusions. Basically, for example one I would say (5+3+1+.5) = 9.5 and we have to call 2, so 4.75 to 1. When I break that down to see how much equity we need(4.75/5.75)=82.6%
we are opposite that so we need 17.4% equity just as the article states, my method and his is coming to the same conclusion, it seems. So now, why is that happening when we are setting up our equations differently, that is what we are doing right?
yes, yes, yes, different equations which are inverses(eh?) reaching the same conclusion. Now the wheels are turning a bit. I think sometimes I mix and match the way they get worked out and then get confused, I don't know. basically, I calculate my opponent's equity and then know I need the opposite. But now the equation in the screenshot makes sense. I probably didn't make a lot of sense there using "opponent's equity" and some other language but I get it, kind of
Now it's time to optimize the lines
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