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05-17-2017 , 12:23 PM
Dunno, they are both made with the same wood. *Boom tsssh*

I assume the ante tables bring more action due to the pot having been sweetened.
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05-28-2017 , 05:30 AM
How do the millionaires of the game (Ivey, Seidel, Holz, Colman)

What do they do to study? Besides the obvious answer, play hands??? Very curious! We all want the $$$$$ so I'll love to hear it.


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05-28-2017 , 08:55 AM
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How do the millionaires of the game (Ivey, Seidel, Holz, Colman)

What do they do to study? Besides the obvious answer, play hands??? Very curious! We all want the $$$$$ so I'll love to hear it.


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I would assume that Ivey studies each specific opponent a lot, since only a handful of people would sit down and play Ivey that would really give him a run.
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05-28-2017 , 04:33 PM
Are there any good Stars bonus codes to use that aren't exclusively for first deposits?
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05-29-2017 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by flandeeze
How do the millionaires of the game (Ivey, Seidel, Holz, Colman)

What do they do to study? Besides the obvious answer, play hands??? Very curious! We all want the $$$$$ so I'll love to hear it.


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They do a lot of different things. I'll list what I can think of off the top of my head.

Go over their hand histories and look for mistakes.
Discuss hands with other players, in person, online or both.*
Hire a coach.
Sign up to a coaching site with coaching videos and other tools.**
Read the new poker books as they come out.
Study a specific topic, for example, check-raising or responding to 3-bets.
Work on the math.***
Lean how to use online tools like tracking programs, equity calculators and others.

I want to add something that isn't study, but it's just as important. Practice good money and bankroll management, keep good records and pay your taxes. If you screw up any of those it might not matter how good a player you are.

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*2+2 is a good place to do that.
*The one I am on only costs $10 a month.
**A friend stated on TV (WPT episode) that Andrew Robl was "fanatical about studying the math."
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05-31-2017 , 04:28 PM
I'm looking to start getting back into poker after 10ish year abscence. I play a mix of tournament, cash and sng; what software are people using these days for tracking play?

Specifically push/shove/fold, cash play tracking, and ev?

Second question, does anyone know what software Somerville uses that cant be run while youre logged into poker stars? It seemed to pull up push/shove/fold equity really quickly.

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05-31-2017 , 07:24 PM
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I'm looking to start getting back into poker after 10ish year abscence. I play a mix of tournament, cash and sng; what software are people using these days for tracking play?

Specifically push/shove/fold, cash play tracking, and ev?

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Hold em Manager and Poker Tracker are the top two. I think Hold em Manager is maybe more popular?
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06-03-2017 , 05:19 AM
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Hold em Manager and Poker Tracker are the top two. I think Hold em Manager is maybe more popular?
Holdem Manager bought Poker Tracker. Both are still used, are supported by the companies and have support threads in these forums. I would get Holdem Manager just in case Poker Tracker is phased out at some point.
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06-03-2017 , 07:43 AM
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Holdem Manager bought Poker Tracker. Both are still used, are supported by the companies and have support threads in these forums. I would get Holdem Manager just in case Poker Tracker is phased out at some point.
The companies merged, one did not buy the other. There are no plans to phase out PT.
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06-04-2017 , 02:46 AM
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The companies merged, one did not buy the other. There are no plans to phase out PT.
Thank you for the correction.
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06-08-2017 , 09:29 PM
Can anybody tell how exactly does a prop bets work? Plus, what is the "1/5" odds? how that works?
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06-09-2017 , 04:52 AM
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Can anybody tell how exactly does a prop bets work? Plus, what is the "1/5" odds? how that works?
I have never participated in a prop bet, in fact I have never been at a table when it happened, but the basic idea is that you make a bet that you can do something better than someone else. The word "prop" stands for proposition.

Example: If someone says, "let's make a $10 last-longer bet" he is betting (proposing) that he can last longer in a tournament than you will. It's a bet between you and another person, and it's between the two of you. It could happen at or away from the table It has nothing to do with the action on the table during a hand, and it is settled away from the table.

I'm not sure what your "odds" question means. Odds are expressed as a ratio, not a fraction. For example, if I want to try bet the river to make my club flush draw, my odds against getting a club are just over 4 to 1. The exact odds would be written as 4.11:1, which is read as "four point one one to one." It means that over a large sample size, for every time you hit your flush, you would miss it 4.11 times, that is, you'll make your flush about 1 time in 5.
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06-10-2017 , 08:30 AM
Hi,

this is my first post in this forum and I hope this is the right place to ask my maybe dumb question:
Well here is the hand:

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 111.5 BB (VPIP: 7.14, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
SB: 81 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
BB: 223 BB (VPIP: 44.44, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
UTG: 99 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
Hero (UTG+1): 91 BB
MP: 97 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
MP+1: 155.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
MP+2: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
CO: 61 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 8

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 2.5 BB, fold

Flop: (7 BB, 2 players) Q 6 2
SB checks, Hero bets 5 BB, SB calls 5 BB

Turn: (17 BB, 2 players) 8
SB checks, Hero bets 11.5 BB, SB raises to 24.5 BB, Hero calls 13 BB

River: (66 BB, 2 players) 5
SB bets 48.5 BB and is all-in, fold

SB wins 63.5 BB

Basically I get 2,5:1 on the riverbet and I have a like 90% chance of winning against a preflop range of ~8%
But still in the situation I thought that there's no way he does not have the Ace-something of clubs.

Was the fold correct or terribly wrong?

Thank you for any answer
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06-10-2017 , 09:42 AM
Shove the turn, if he just has a single club then you have to make him pay to hit it, if he already has the flush made you at least have outs. You can't call the turn and then fold the river when nothing changes. Don't know what you're doing working out stuff against preflop ranges when you have no data on villain and the important spot comes on the turn
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06-10-2017 , 12:03 PM
Thanks for the answer, I just start out improving my play so I am really new to all of this. I am currently stuck going up 10€ and then loosing all of it again, mostly when the enemies shove.
How can I improve on exactly these situations?
Here would be another example where I just don't know if betting the river is wrong:
PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 98.6 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
SB: 184.8 BB (VPIP: 19.44, PFR: 15.28, 3Bet Preflop: 3.70, Hands: 73)
BB: 104 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
UTG: 67.6 BB (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
Hero (UTG+1): 112.6 BB
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 11.36, PFR: 11.36, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 47)
MP+1: 51.6 BB (VPIP: 5.26, PFR: 5.26, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 19)
MP+2: 100 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 2.22, Hands: 120)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K K

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, CO calls 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (10.4 BB, 3 players) 4 5 6
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets 5 BB, Hero calls 5 BB, fold

Turn: (20.4 BB, 2 players) K
Hero checks, BTN bets 10 BB, Hero raises to 23 BB, BTN calls 13 BB

River: (66.4 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero bets 21 BB, BTN calls 21 BB

Hero shows K K (Three of a Kind, Kings)
(Pre 67%, Flop 38%, Turn 70%)
BTN shows A 3 (Straight, Seven High)
(Pre 33%, Flop 62%, Turn 30%)
BTN wins 104 BB

Should I just always shove in these spots on the turn? I always feel like I am scaring them off when I shove.

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06-10-2017 , 05:54 PM
well that's an unfortunate situation, as an open ender plus the nut flush draw is about as big as it gets in HE, so you're not getting him to fold regardless
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06-11-2017 , 07:51 AM
When one or more people are sitting out at a table, how should I be thinking of position?

Eg, 6 max table with UTG sitting out. Should I treat mp as I would utg if no one was sitting out? Or should I just treat mp as mp, since there are still only 4 people left to act after me.

Just not sure how I should be thinking of this in terms of ranges and how much to open up when players sit out.

Thanks!
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06-11-2017 , 07:56 AM
just treat it as a five player table
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06-11-2017 , 08:42 AM
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just treat it as a five player table
So do you in a sense take out your utg range on a 5 player table? Or do you play just as tight as you would utg on a 6 max table.

Sorry if thats worded bad, I'm just confused as to if I should be thinking of it as utg still because you are the first to act, or should I open up (relative to 6 max utg) because there is only 4 players to act after me.
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06-11-2017 , 09:13 AM
i treat it as a five player table
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06-11-2017 , 09:36 AM
Look at position relative to dealer not first person to act preflop. At a 5 person table "UTG" is really the hijack and should open the hijack range, ie the range you would open in the hijack at a 6 person table after UTG/lojack folds.
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06-11-2017 , 09:43 AM
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Look at position relative to dealer not first person to act preflop. At a 5 person table "UTG" is really the hijack and should open the hijack range, ie the range you would open in the hijack at a 6 person table after UTG/lojack folds.
Thanks! This is exactly what I was looking for
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06-14-2017 , 05:28 AM
Hey, how do I play pocket pairs with some overcards?
Is the following play of myself exploitable (calling 3 streets)
I actually right now call if there's one overcard and fold if there are two on a river bet.

888 Poker - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 113.5 BB (VPIP: 23.81, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
BTN: 129 BB (VPIP: 12.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)
SB: 98.5 BB (VPIP: 57.14, PFR: 42.86, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
BB: 106 BB (VPIP: 23.81, PFR: 4.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
UTG: 196 BB (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
Hero (UTG+1): 102.5 BB
MP: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
MP+1: 100 BB (VPIP: 4.55, PFR: 4.55, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J J

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) K 6 4
BB bets 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB

Turn: (12.5 BB, 2 players) 2
BB bets 5 BB, Hero calls 5 BB

River: (22.5 BB, 2 players) 9
BB bets 11 BB, Hero calls 11 BB

BB shows 9 A (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 31%, Flop 13%, Turn 7%)
Hero shows J J (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 69%, Flop 87%, Turn 93%)
Hero wins 42 BB
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06-14-2017 , 07:05 AM
don't post results

it's a weird line where he donks three streets readless - i think i probably play it similarly as if he did have a king i'd have thought he'd let you continue, he's betting relatively small on each street
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06-14-2017 , 11:51 AM
Hi All,
Just getting back into posting, used to have an account with >10K posts before work took me away from the game. Hope to again contribute, learn again.
Cheers,
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