Bingo. 1/2c is short for $.01/$.02. Another way to describe this same game is 2nl. Where the number in front of nl (2) is 100 big blinds (the standard buy-in) for NL games online.

what does HUHU mean?

HUHU = "Heads Up pot at a Heads Up table"

I understand early/middle/late position in a full ring, but how do you adjust what's early and what's middle when the table isn't full?

The way I sort of understand it is that UTG and UTG+1 are always early and BTN and CO are always late and you just cut down MPs for the first few missing seats, but what happens when you get to 7-handed or less?

that's more true for nomenclature than for gameplay. As far as strategy, at a 6-handed table you sortof play as if it were a 9-handed table and the first 3 people folded. utg 6-handed, your opening range resembles MP at a 9-handed table (after 3 folds) more than utg at a 9-handed table.

the reality is far more complicated, of course. whole books have been written (search for the fees guide to 6-max). A lot of the difference is with the people who choose to play 6-max rather than pure strategic forces, so 6-handed at a 9-seat table is probably a lot different from a full 6-max table.

I would say it's more appropriate not to think of the MPs "shrinking," rather think in terms of "how many are left to act behind me?" After all, once you get down to 5-handed, for example, UTG is the hijack seat!

how do you play a multiway pot at a heads up table?

you don't. however, for those of us who bother to think about our play while away from the table, such short hand can be useful in describing a particular hand for others who weren't there to witness it.

did you know that when only two people are left in a pot, even if there are other people at the table who are not in the pot, that is called "heads up?"

How do you fold to someone minraising your BB in NLHE tournaments?

I personally think you should call with ATC because it's cheap to bust someone that can't fold. But, what if they DO know how to fold? Then it's just spew.

It's a large button marked "fold".

By this logic you should complete the SB with ATC as well. (Hint: Both are big leaks. You're not going to hit monsters very often with 25o and even when you do, you're still not going to stack people very often in small pots).

I've looked everywhere and I can't find an answer:


If I'm sitting at a cash table with the standard 100BB, at what point do I leave the table?

When my session ends?

When I've reached 200BB? 300BB? 400BB? 500BB+?

Change after every hour?

Is there a set answer that adheres to good bankroll management, or is it pretty variable depending on table and player?


I've also got some pretty basic questions about the nanostakes - post them here or the uNL forum?

Ta folks.

The simple answer is this:

Quit playing when you lose your edge at the table. This could mean one of many things.

A) The fish that were giving out money left and much more skilled players replaced them

B) You're hungry, Angry, Lonely, and/or tired. The mental barrier is causing you to play worse poker and cost you money.

C) You and most of the other players have large stacks and you are uncomfortable with deep stack play. You need to change your play according to how deep you are. But maybe you know you make simple mistakes in deep stack play and it would be smart just to stand up and sit down with a normal stack when possible

There's probably more examples, but thats my way of relating it to stack sizes.


Either is fine. Here is probably safer.

Thanks for that.

So it's fine to be sitting at a table with something crazy like 800BB?

I think the problem I'm questioning is leaving so much of your winnings on the table available to be won in freak situations, rather than banking them when you can. Say, if you always left the table at 300BB, then you cant get into a freak AA vs KK both hitting a set then house situation for 800BB should you both still be seated with that much. The most you can lose is 300BB.

The most you can win is 300BB.

As for the uNL question...

I've just got on stars, and I'm starting right from the bottom with $50 br, playing 2nl.

According to what I've read on other br building threads, people are playing very tight, very weak at 2nl just because it's crazy. But then I get confused with setmining, and how often I should be folding.

For instance - I'm reading that open-limping is bad bad bad; and my regular play never consists of this usually. But playing super tight/weak - does this go out the window? And is it any different from playing a small PP UTG? Should I always be looking to play any PP from any position, and always for as cheaply as possible?

I'm just pretty unfamiliar with the whole concept of winning with super tight/weak play, and I don't know how far to take it. To me, it's just going to bleed money to the rake and blinds, which is why I think I'm missing something.

If there's a thread relating to this strategy just pointing me to that would be fine!

Oh is it?? Ha - well that answers that question!

What happens after that? Forces you to leave the table?

I've only ever played live and in MTT/STT's.

You misunderstood me I guess . Your arguement is that if we leave every time we have 300bb, then we can limit our losses. My response is that you're also limiting your possible winnings.



You want to see pocket pairs fairly cheap. But you also want to be able to play for entire stacks when you hit your set. So its a balancing act. At 2nl, limping isnt as bad because players will call over-shoves more often than they would in higher limits. But it is still more likely to felt when there is more money in the pot preflop. So we have to consider the effective stack sizes. If players are in for 5 dollars each, then I'll be willing to see a flop for 20 cents every time. If the pot goes over 50 cents, then I'd fold almost everytime (assuming heads up and you haven't put most of the 50cents in the pot already).

Generally, I'd like to play every pocket pair for a raise to about 10cents, with multiway action. If your table raises often, I dont mind open limping from EP with small pairs at 2nl.

When you hit your set, play them fast (bet for value).

Riiiiight - I get the whole money at the table now.

I thought it was a bit contradictory about open limping, but as long as it's not too bad a move at 2nl, then I'm understanding the whole play a bit better now. I usually wouldn't feel right just calling UTG with 22, but as long as it's not too -EV at 2nl, I feel better for doing it until I get my feet on the ground

Also, when do you know when to cream some off the top of your bankroll??

Say you're playing 100nl, and you have $2500 in your bank roll - is it safe to assume that the $500 over the 20xbi is profit and withdraw? Should you leave a buffer in there for variance, and say that any money over $2500 is profit?

I think I'm asking how close to your minimum bankroll should you be playing to, if moving up levels is not considered, and you want to be spending the profits of your success? Is it standard that anything over the 20xbi minimum can be considered wages or whatever?

Depends what your goals and needs are. If you're looking to move up as quickly as possible then you should leave your roll alone as much as possible. If you have to pay rent/mortgage then you need to periodically withdraw.

I pay myself a predetermined salary and cash it out every Sunday.

Another one...

How effective is Poker Tracker at 2nl and 5nl? Considering I'm starting from the very bottom, I'd rather not spend $89 on software, where I'm barely going to use it for the first $150 of my bank roll building. Or, even if I do use it, it's going to give me a limited edge. I'd sooner build up till I'm playing 10nl+ and use that money to purchase the software, than fork out when I'm still getting going.

But if it's going to be hugely beneficial, then I'm all for it. Or HEM, if that does the job just as well, I haven't downloaded that trial yet.


Sorry for all the questions - I've spent about a month going through every single thread on the anthology thread and I'm starting to come to the end, so I'm getting myself ready to get going full on.

First of all, weak tight is wrong, you want to play tight super aggressive at 2nl. When you hit, you want to hammer the pot as hard as possible. People open shove AA everytime at 2nl because its profitable. I personally don't but it pays off.

Open limping isn't the end of the world. Its not really a huge deal until you get to 50nl and above. I do it to set mine at 25nl. Most people don't notice, however I also raise occasionally in EP with low PP's as well to mix it up. I like being aggressive though.

How do most US players deposit onto pokerstars... Ive tried e-checks and visa and neither works

I thought the tight/weak part was mainly to do with rarely getting HU at 2nl, and without connecting on the flop you could easily be in bad shape even with AKs against a number of players who aren't going to fold even middle pair. But once you hit, you're all over the raise button like a fat kid on cake, as the players are such donks they don't notice you've got from zero to super excited all of a sudden.

Glad I posted this now - I could have been in bad shape, even at 2nl by playing like a donk!

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