I've been learning nanolimit limit cash games (.02/.04 at pokerstars) here on the forums and reading SSHE/S&M, but everything I read about tournament strategy seems so interesting. Where would be a good place to start learning about playing in tournaments?

If he acknowledges that people have skill edges, then you have won the argument.

yes and no, he said bluff was the only skill.

If bluffing is a skill, why isn't knowing how to size one's bet properly?

Why isn't knowing when to fold PF?

Why isn't knowing when to chase draws?

Check-raising?

Calling to snap off bluffs with marginal hands?


It sounds like he's someone who just wants to argue for the sake of arguing; I wouldn't waste my time. Or, he's completely clueless.


--klez

he says once everyone knows this at the high level, there is only luck and bluff left to make a difference.

do you know how to get a hand history from Ladbrokes (on microgaming) as the HH's arent converted by the deucescracked convertor and the version that pokertracker has of the hand cant be converted by the deucescracked converter either

thanks

Soo my dumb question if anyone is willing to offer insight

How can position be exploited? I'm having some difficulty understanding the logic behind raising larger range of hands when in position on the CO or BTN. If post flop your opponent hit something, wouldn't he/she still bet for value? How can our weaker hands be compensated by position?

Most of the time the flop doesn't hit anybody.

Because if a person acts before you, you have more information, you can use your hand readin ability, your experience to glean information. If you are first to act, you are kinda stepping into an abyss of uncertainty (will he raise/fold/all-in). You open with a wider range because statistically, with less people to act behind you, they are less likely to have a better hand, and in general terms, being in position gives you an advantage.

It will vary because this statistic by itself is not important, only indicative. Some people have a constantly descending red line (non-showdown) and an ascending blue line (showdown). Others have the opposite, or a big red line with an even blue line, and some have both positive (my style results in this). It is widely agreed that the green line (red+blue) is the only important line at the end of the day, although there are remedies to adjust the red and blue lines.

Naked in poker means a single high card with a worthless or irrelevant kicker, and more generally refers to a single card by itself. The implication is that the other card(s) you are holding do(es) not matter. Sometimes people use it to refer to a pair without a kicker, a pair that won't improve, or a one card flush draw with nothing to go with it.

It is free to become a member there. guests get 5 free searches a day and registered members get 10. They have a forum. If you plan on using it regularly, the silver (cheapest) is a rip, and the highest package might be more searches than you need unless you play a lot and also use the advanced features extensively. Some of their premium features like table finder will cost you two player search credits per use. While we're discussing the packages, the shortest membership length is also a rip, with each getting better up to the year at once. To answer your question, it is worth paying for if you feel that the information you will gain from using it will be worth more than the cost of your membership for the length of time you buy it (so, a few hundred a year most likely). Unfortunately, because it is no longer a mostly-free service, it is difficult to evaluate its use to you, much like sharkscope for tournament players, due to the search restriction. A good idea might be to buy a one month silver membership just once (this is what I did... you'll have to e-mail them, btw, or it will auto-renew when the month is up), try the site out for that time period, and see what you think of it. The 10 searches a day should at least give you a gist. The big number by the thermometer is not what you should be looking at.

That should get you started. Do remember that it is against sites' TOS to use PTR.

I would imagine 40 cents at a shallow .01/.02

The players you talk of are called house players, props, or shills. You won't see it online except at mid/high stakes on smaller networks. It is more common live. It is a deal you enter into, and typically you are paid an hourly and your goal in the game is merely to break even or better.

The pulldown list on the Reports screen. It's in the top left and says Select Report Name From List. Use Leak Buster - Position or similar.

Be careful. You're usually approaching the game with the wrong mentality if your goal is to double up and leave.

When you sit at a particular table, your aim is to stay there as long as the game condition is good, meaning you are up against players you can beat who are in suitable positions, the table isn't reg infested, and you're comfortable with the stack sizes. You can leave a table and find one you think is better at any time, and should throughout the session, as frequently or infrequently as your personal preference. Just try to decide what you want and don't want in a table before you play your session. If there are no good tables, stopping immediately is an option.

On top of this approach to particular tables, sits whatever rules you want to make, or not to make, for your session. Good rules to have are that you'll stop at any time if certain things happen, such as losing 3 buy-ins, or tilting. Most people also plan to play at most for a maximum time. It's all up to you, but those are all good basic rules to set for your session... think about what all your rules will be for tables and for the whole session, set those rules straight before you start, and try to stick to them..

Nobody knows for sure about the long term. Those who are proven winners at it seem to agree it is softer than NLHE, at every level, although it is unknown if this will last.

How much need BI for turbo dons?

Hey everyone

About an hour ago, I was involved in a 6 buck sit n go on a 6 man table. One guy had got to about 3800 after a double up and then quit the game. He was at about 3300, I was at about 2800 and the other opponent was more or less the same. So I thought "I don't want the quitter to get paid for one double up" so I said to the other guy in the chat box "Do you want to take turns stealing this guys blinds? He doesn't deserve to get paid." He then said yes so I raised the guys blind.

Unfortunately, the second after I had said this, the guy returns and then defends his blind and saying in the chat box "Good idea." He was obviously pissed. He told me he would "remember this", which made me worry he was going to report me. I'm especially worried as I knocked him out a few minutes later with a hero call so he might be bitter.

My 2 questions are this. Is what I did collusion? Well, obviously it is but isn't it common sense to take from a dead big blind in order to get heads up? The guy was obviously just sitting out playing scared poker.

And my other question is if he reports me to Full Tilt, will they take away all my money, ban me for a month, ban me from chat for a month or what? Do you think I should move my money?

Thanks for all the responses in advance.

Depends on the level and your skill. I believe you should have 50 BI at a very minimum, and probably more.

It's collusion. You're allowed to do it implicitly, but it becomes cheating when you announce your intentions... in this case by typing in the chat. You committed a serious rule violation.

If this is a first time offense and it was some micro tourney, and you were reported, you will get an email. I don't know that they would confiscate funds, close the acct etc. for a single incident, but you're pretty dumb for attempting this. You seem to know that it is collusion, and its even sillier that you thought the third guy had quit.

I'm new to this game. I just thought it was common sense. However, at least now I know never to do it again. The thing is, I've seen this happen before numerous times. I wasn't involved but when I've come 4th place, the other 2 active players just said in the chat box, "share?" "sure" so I thought it was common practise. I wouldn't call it dumb. It's more naivety.

First, you can chop the prize pool in SNGs on FTP. So when the players who are left ask to share—or chop—could that be what they were referring to?

Second, why do you care who gets in the money besides yourself? The best case scenario is you take advantage of the guy sitting out by stealing more and putting pressure on the opponent still playing, bust him, then the player sitting out doesn't return and you blind him off for an easy win. The game is about winning money, not determining who deserves to win and who doesn't. This is really play money thinking.

Third, yes the guy is an idiot for sitting out just to play it safe. If that is, indeed, why he sat out. Maybe he just had something important he had to take care of for a few minutes.

Fourth, yes it is collusion; and I have reported players for doing something similar in a SNG. I didn't want to get them banned, I just wanted for them to get an official warning to make them think twice before doing it again.

Then, after the game I sharkscoped them, and prayed they didn't get banned: they were two of the biggest losers I have ever seen.

Finally, if someone made this offer to me, I would point out that what he is suggesting is collusion and decline the offer. Then I would beat him over the head with his fear about the guy sitting out cashing.


--klez

I'm not a loser at sit n gos. I've never actually deposited before and I've grinded up from nothing. I know how to play. I just need to know more about the ethical/off table part of the game more so I think.

The points you raised are all true. I shouldn't have done it, especially as 3 handed is when I'm best usually. I just hope the guy doesn't report me because it was an honest mistake. It's not like facebooking someone else at the same table or anything serious like that.

I didn't intend to suggest that you were. My apology if it sounded that way to you.


He probably didn't report you. Even if he did, you'll probably just get a warning.

Live & learn; and GL.


--klez

Thanks for reply, I understand you get a statistical advantage but I assume this is at higher levels when players don't limp in UTG and EP/MP
At the stakes I play at which are the micros, everytime I am on the CO or BTN I get like 4 limpers, it doesn't exactly help that I have position. I guess I will have to improve hand reading abilitiy but it seems to me it is much harder at the micros due to the limping and checking extremes that occur.

Alright so heres my dumb question, what does OP means? I read about people reffering to others as OP what does this mean? I'd prefer if someone messaged me about it since im not likely to go back to this thread. Thanks

original poster

Or original post, depending on context.


--klez

Is there a thread here with all the poker abbreviations or terms used in the forum? Thanks..

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This is by no means true. If we are shortstacking, we should change tables as soon as we've doubled up, or won maybe even less. Even with a full buyin, if we win enough at a particular table that a larger fraction of our roll is at risk than is acceptable for sound bankroll management, we should pick up and change tables.

Can someone tell me what bb/100 and wtsd means?/ redirect me to a thread with a glossary of the many terms/abbreviations that are used on this site that I have no idea what they mean.

Thanks