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07-24-2008 , 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Fuertisimo
I have 2 questions, the first is I've seen people post graphs and charts and stuff, which I guess helps track their play. Where do I go to get those and do they work on Absolute Poker?

Second, I have a really hard time handling losing. I don't mind losing with the worse hand, because I realize I just made a play I shouldn't have made, but I can't stand losing with the better hand, because I am being punished for making the right play.

Are their any breathing excercises or vibrating cushions or any kind of de-stressers people use to relax after taking a beat? I tend to go on a rampage of tilt afterwards and make all kinds of bad plays.

Lastly, why is it that 4/5 times I get my chips in the pot with the higher % to win than the other guy, I lose?

That was 3 questions, but I just busted out of 3 SNG's in a row with better hands on all in bets.
1. People get these from their poker database software: Pokertracker, Holdem Manager, or Poker Office, for example. PT is compatible with UB and I am assuming the others are as well, though someone please jump in if I'm wrong.

2. You have to remember that your goal is to get your chips in the middle when you have an edge. Just because you have an edge doesn't mean you'll always win. But if you consistently bet with an edge, you'll win. Get over the idea that you're supposed to win when you're ahead. You're simply the favorite to win. It's good to bet money when you're the favorite.

There are no breathing exercises or anything else that will help you. If you can't get your head around the idea that being a favorite in a hand doesn't entitle you to the pot, then you're going to continually feel this frustration. Make the decision today to not let this get to you so much.

If these situations tilt you, the solution is simple. Stop playing when you're on tilt. When you're no longer feeling steamed, go back to the game.

There's no reason to go on a rampage. You're an adult and capable of acting rationally. Be less of a baby when you lose.

3. It's either (a) you're chronically unlucky and will never win at poker (b) UB is rigged or (c) you should choose a sample size larger than 5. If I had to guess, I'd say it's either (b) or (c).
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07-25-2008 , 03:00 AM
very dumb question: is pot limit omaha 8 or better the same thing as pot limit omaha?
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07-25-2008 , 03:44 AM
No.

8/b you use 'Low hands' in contest of half the pot.

http://www.pocketfives.com/poker-art...uction-2425814
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07-25-2008 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MoonOrb
1. People get these from their poker database software: Pokertracker, Holdem Manager, or Poker Office, for example. PT is compatible with UB and I am assuming the others are as well, though someone please jump in if I'm wrong.

2. You have to remember that your goal is to get your chips in the middle when you have an edge. Just because you have an edge doesn't mean you'll always win. But if you consistently bet with an edge, you'll win. Get over the idea that you're supposed to win when you're ahead. You're simply the favorite to win. It's good to bet money when you're the favorite.

There are no breathing exercises or anything else that will help you. If you can't get your head around the idea that being a favorite in a hand doesn't entitle you to the pot, then you're going to continually feel this frustration. Make the decision today to not let this get to you so much.

If these situations tilt you, the solution is simple. Stop playing when you're on tilt. When you're no longer feeling steamed, go back to the game.

There's no reason to go on a rampage. You're an adult and capable of acting rationally. Be less of a baby when you lose.

3. It's either (a) you're chronically unlucky and will never win at poker (b) UB is rigged or (c) you should choose a sample size larger than 5. If I had to guess, I'd say it's either (b) or (c).

Good advice all around, I guess the most frustration for me comes from that Poker is the only game I've ever played where I can outplay my opponent and still lose. Objectivity and rationality seem to be 2 very important traits for a poker player. When I posted this I'd just been taken out by some absurd calls that sucked out on me, which I suppose is just part of the game.

Walking away while on tilt is another piece of good advice, but for the time being is hard to do . I think I have a long way to go in developing my game, but I think the more intangible mental aspects of it seem to need the most work .
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07-25-2008 , 02:24 PM
oh, and I'm most interested in the graph and hand statistics aspect of those charts, I don't need the gui and whatnot. Poker Tracker and Hold Em Manager require you to pay for them, are their any free softwares out there that you can use?
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07-25-2008 , 02:29 PM
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Good advice all around, I guess the most frustration for me comes from that Poker is the only game I've ever played where I can outplay my opponent and still lose.
If this bothers you that much, you should stop playing poker and pick up a game that you will always win when you outplay your opponents--like chess.
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07-25-2008 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Fuertisimo
oh, and I'm most interested in the graph and hand statistics aspect of those charts, I don't need the gui and whatnot. Poker Tracker and Hold Em Manager require you to pay for them, are their any free softwares out there that you can use?
I don't think so--these are big database programs that collate thousands and thousands of hand histories into usable stats--but you can download a demo version of PT3 to use for 60 days, at least.
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07-25-2008 , 04:29 PM
Q: Is there a Mac OSX version of poker tracker?
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07-25-2008 , 08:48 PM
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If this bothers you that much, you should stop playing poker and pick up a game that you will always win when you outplay your opponents--like chess.
Their isn't much money in chess, I understand .
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07-25-2008 , 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by MoonOrb
I don't think so--these are big database programs that collate thousands and thousands of hand histories into usable stats--but you can download a demo version of PT3 to use for 60 days, at least.
Thanks for the tip, I'll give it a shot.
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07-26-2008 , 01:57 AM
it may seem obvious, but the advice about settling down helped. I've always known that poker is part luck, but not letting myself get on tilt was a main focus tonight, and I finished 14th in a 7k guaranteed for 80 bucks tonight. I know I have the ability its just the whole not getting on tilt thing I need to work on.

Thanks for the words here.
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07-26-2008 , 03:48 PM
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What's the best way to deposit and cash out of online sites living in the US?
Was wondering this myself
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07-26-2008 , 09:56 PM
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What's the best way to deposit and cash out of online sites living in the US?
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Was wondering this myself
Deposit = MoneyGram from a local US Bank, or similar branch. There's probably one in a supermarket near you if you live in or near a city.

Withdrawal = check in the mail.

There are probably other ways, but the ones above don't have annual fees, or any direct interaction with my bank account.
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07-26-2008 , 09:57 PM
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Their isn't much money in chess, I understand .

Actually, the good chess players at my local chess club do very well. They aren't pros, but they make more each year than I make playing micro-limit NLHE.

And the very best players can play professionally.
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07-27-2008 , 01:06 AM
ok tried searching but what is considered out of position and in position. Also what is set mining?
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07-27-2008 , 01:21 AM
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ok tried searching but what is considered out of position and in position. Also what is set mining?
Being in position means you act last in a betting round. Being out of position means you act first. So if you raise in early position preflop and anyone between you and the blinds calls/raises, you're going to be playing the rest of the hand out of position against those people since they'll act after you on subsequent betting rounds.

If you call preflop on the button, you'll be in position for the rest of the hand.

"Set mining" refers to trying to see flops with pocket pairs, hitting a set on the flop, and then extracting value. It's nitty, where you generally try to see a cheap flop with a PP and dump your hand on the flop when you don't hit a set.
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07-27-2008 , 01:37 AM
I'm going to Tahoe in about 2 weeks, and was planning on playing the $1/2 NL at MontBleu. Should I just get $1 chips, or since a common raise would be to $7 or $8, should I get mostly $1s and some $5s? Also, does anyone know what the game there is like?
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07-27-2008 , 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by otatop
I'm going to Tahoe in about 2 weeks, and was planning on playing the $1/2 NL at MontBleu. Should I just get $1 chips, or since a common raise would be to $7 or $8, should I get mostly $1s and some $5s? Also, does anyone know what the game there is like?
Definitely get some 5s. Otherwise you'll have 10 stacks of chips in front of you if you buy in full.
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07-27-2008 , 02:09 AM
I've checked out both pokertracker and hold em manager and niether seem to support absolute poker, which is the one I play on, does anyone know of a tool that works on absolute?

and also, how does one play chess for money? I've never heard of that before.
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07-27-2008 , 02:21 AM
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and also, how does one play chess for money? I've never heard of that before.
I bet you $5 I can beat you in a game of chess.
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07-27-2008 , 03:31 AM
Do you play okay? I totally suck at chess, but I bet you $5 I can beat you if you abandon one rook.
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07-27-2008 , 07:25 AM
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I've checked out both pokertracker and hold em manager and niether seem to support absolute poker, which is the one I play on, does anyone know of a tool that works on absolute?
Only if you're a super-user...


Seriously, PT2 works for Absolute.
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07-27-2008 , 10:44 AM
Which one network have softer NL50 6max games, Ongame or Boss?
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07-27-2008 , 04:54 PM
what does it mean to play shorthanded?
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07-27-2008 , 07:08 PM
Shorthanded is 3-6 players (commonly known as 6max) at a table. 8-10 is fullring (FR) I believe.
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