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01-03-2018 , 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by King Spew
Oh....range. I thought OP ask about specific hand nomenclature. My mistake.
I was asking about specific hand notation. Not range.

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01-03-2018 , 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by sparks_mandrill
I was asking about specific hand notation. Not range.

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Well it isn't a specific hand, so that kind of goes out of the window. It just means all hands with a king in it. That's why the x, it's a variable. It's by definition a range if you can't point it down to specific hands.
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01-05-2018 , 10:08 PM
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Well it isn't a specific hand, so that kind of goes out of the window. It just means all hands with a king in it. That's why the x, it's a variable. It's by definition a range if you can't point it down to specific hands.
Gotcha.

Another question: How can a hand that is purely air, gain equity throughout the play of a hand?

Say someone has AJo.

Board comes 9c3s2d, then on the turn comes 5h.

I'm reading The Grinders Manual and it says that a hand like AQo or AJo gained equity on the turn.

How is that so?

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01-06-2018 , 04:07 AM
What happens when a 4 comes on the river?
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01-06-2018 , 09:15 AM
What is the thing with these poker solvers?

Can they really solve poker or can they only solve a situation where you give the players some ranges and only a few betsizes to choose from?

It seems like there is a lot of new stuff out...
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01-06-2018 , 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
What happens when a 4 comes on the river?
Hero has TT. Do you think author means against my hand?

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01-06-2018 , 02:50 PM
sparks, 64 was nudging you toward the answer to your question. You ask "why did VILLAIN pick up more equity on the turn" when he held AJ on a 9325 board.

Do you see why VILLAIN picked up equity?
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01-06-2018 , 02:53 PM
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Can they really solve poker or can they only solve a situation
If you work out a ton of the situations and commit this knowledge to your game play...... probably not perfectly solved but.....
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01-06-2018 , 04:37 PM
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sparks, 64 was nudging you toward the answer to your question. You ask "why did VILLAIN pick up more equity on the turn" when he held AJ on a 9325 board.

Do you see why VILLAIN picked up equity?
Ugh, those damn wheels.

Thanks sixfour!

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01-09-2018 , 08:55 PM
Was watching poker on tv for the first time and it piqued my curiosity so downloaded the PokerStars app and played the tutorial and had fun so figured I'd buy the £10 deposit (with £20 tickets for first purchase).

The tutorial seemed to be rather easy-going, lulling into a false sense of security so to make you buy lol.

So I'm wondering, as an absolute novice who is curious and willing to basically just be a student of the game, where you'd start. Quite happy to chuck a little bit at it to learn but don't want to be aimlessly bleeding cash even if there will be a long early losing period.

Came across the forum in a reddit search.
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01-09-2018 , 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by adspec
Was watching poker on tv for the first time and it piqued my curiosity so downloaded the PokerStars app and played the tutorial and had fun so figured I'd buy the £10 deposit (with £20 tickets for first purchase).

The tutorial seemed to be rather easy-going, lulling into a false sense of security so to make you buy lol.

So I'm wondering, as an absolute novice who is curious and willing to basically just be a student of the game, where you'd start. Quite happy to chuck a little bit at it to learn but don't want to be aimlessly bleeding cash even if there will be a long early losing period.

Came across the forum in a reddit search.
Getting started in hold'em by Ed Miller and the twoplustwo crew. Best investment you can make at a beginner stage

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01-09-2018 , 09:27 PM
Thanks. Looks like the kind of thing I need without friends to play a few introductory games with
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01-11-2018 , 12:11 PM
Im reading The Grinders Manual and in hand 61, the author is reviewing a situation on the flop, and stated "Hero's gutshot and back door flush draw has 24% equity against a pair higher than 77". He says this with a Kc9h5d board...

I had no idea poker software could calculate something that specific. Is this standard for pokerstove or equilab?

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01-11-2018 , 01:21 PM
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Im reading The Grinders Manual and in hand 61, the author is reviewing a situation on the flop, and stated "Hero's gutshot and back door flush draw has 24% equity against a pair higher than 77". He says this with a Kc9h5d board...

I had no idea poker software could calculate something that specific. Is this standard for pokerstove or equilab?

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This is from a free software I use
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01-11-2018 , 01:42 PM
Hero has 7h6h... Want to run it through for me once more? I'm at the office

You applied a range as well. There's no way to do it otherwise, right? Author must've generated some arbitrary range to go along with pairs of 7+?

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01-11-2018 , 06:28 PM
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Hero has 7h6h... Want to run it through for me once more? I'm at the office

You applied a range as well. There's no way to do it otherwise, right? Author must've generated some arbitrary range to go along with pairs of 7+?
Pretty much the same, I got 28.6% for hero.

I just did a top 10% of hands range, but you can also just click on/type in each individual hand if you want to do the ranges that way.
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01-15-2018 , 12:21 AM
An excerpt from The Grinder's Manual: "Villain's pre-flop range contained big pairs like JJ+ and maybe even J3s, J2s and 32s. Heros' range probably didn't or at least not the big pair part."

In this example, villain is on the button, and Hero is in the BB.

Why would hero's range not include the same big pairs?
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01-15-2018 , 12:51 AM
What was the action? Most likely villain raised and Hero called.

Why would Hero call with his big pairs?
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01-15-2018 , 12:55 AM
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What was the action? Most likely villain raised and Hero called.

Why would Hero call with his big pairs?
it was a 2BB steal attempt and yes, Hero called.

Your follow-up question just connected the dots for me. Since Hero "called", that capped his range.

Poker is hard.

Thanks Spew
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01-16-2018 , 12:56 AM
Does underpair sometimes mean a pocket pair lower than top pair, or just lower than the lowest board card?

Curious if the term is interchangeable.

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01-16-2018 , 01:20 AM
former more than the latter imo
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01-16-2018 , 04:19 AM
why is live poker typically 9 handed, yet online is 6 handed?
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01-16-2018 , 05:50 AM
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why is live poker typically 9 handed, yet online is 6 handed?
There is no rule. Where I play live, it's 10-handed. I sometimes play on an online site where the tournament table sizes are 6, 8, and on weekends occasionally 10 players. I don't play cash so I don't know anything about those.
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01-16-2018 , 09:28 AM
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why is live poker typically 9 handed, yet online is 6 handed?
Live has running costs and space issues that don't exist online
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01-16-2018 , 11:47 AM
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former more than the latter imo
Oh wow. In my experience it's been the other way around.

Thanks per usual, Sir.

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