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01-19-2009 , 03:26 AM
Fullring thats why im a lil worried about running like this
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01-19-2009 , 03:28 AM
They're much better than mine, to be sure. I personally think you lose value if you never induce bluffs, so I prefer a 2.5 or so AF, but whatever.

Ah, yeah you should probably get it close to like 18/15 or something for FR. OR JUST PLAY 6MAX.
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01-19-2009 , 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by RoSeeker
OR JUST PLAY 6MAX.
QFT
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01-21-2009 , 03:08 AM
I'm going to post up my stats at the end of the month, but I am curious on some of you thoughts on money won with showdown versus without. I'm grinding NL25 fullring atm and my won money without showdown keep going more and more negative, but my money won with showdown more than makes up for it, which give me my profit. After 10k hands I was breakeven, but now at 24K or so am at 2+ptbb/100. How concerned should I be at this level to increase my non-showdown winnings, I know I need to improve it as getting it near breakeven would double my winrate, trying to find more spots to be agressive as im sure im folding the best hand at times.

Btw, these hands have all been played at least 6 tables, most 8-15, I know I need to make changes to my game, but when only playing couple hours a day only way to get a significant sample size it via MTing and honestly I feel game is similar whether I am 5 tabling or playing 10. Oh ya, im probably considered a nit also by many so take that into account.
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01-31-2009 , 07:27 PM
I play 6 max. This is all of this month.



wtf.....I'm speechless... I hate you January.


This is December.. I even played slightly weaker and nittier in case you want to tell me I should play more hands or something. (please give me advice on winning!)



I'm accepting free coaching if anyone is interested! I'm sure once I post this there will be tons of pms in my inbox so you better hurry up if you want your chance!

Should I go back to playing....less hands..uhhh I'm gona stop typing now and pretend I didn't say that.
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01-31-2009 , 07:51 PM
How many tables do u play?

ur a huge nit btw -_-
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01-31-2009 , 07:55 PM
Get more aggressive, get vpip to 19, make more C bets.
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01-31-2009 , 07:57 PM
I never play over 9 tables at once. I'll randomly play anywhere from 4 to 6 tables usually. 9 only if I feel like it.
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01-31-2009 , 08:01 PM
i'd stick with 4 and look @ the hands dat u lose big pots on
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01-31-2009 , 08:09 PM
I'd suggest opening your range. If your opponents have given you any reason to believe they have image awareness... abuse it. You have a tight tight nitty image and when you are aggressive they are going to listen if they have any clue... and if they don't then you better have a hand rofl.

Also, are you getting paid when you do have a hand? Are your opponents aware of how tight you are and then when you show aggression backing out? You need to give them a reason to wonder what you have instead of making it easy for them to just avoid the the 14% of the time you show up.

I looked at your stats and I thought, **** he should open his range up a bit ... then I saw you played 6max and thought ... **** he needs to open his range up a bit.
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01-31-2009 , 08:10 PM
I have always looked at my biggest losing hands after I get done playing, it hasn't helped as you can see lol. Really though I would consider 80% of them coolers like flopped sets losing, TPTK in a 3bet pot vs a set, 2 overs + flush draw all in on flop. If I posted these hands in the microstakes forum they would most likely just get locked.
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01-31-2009 , 08:12 PM
Any tips on playing more hands? Seems like whenever I try to I end up playing super lag for the first 40 hands then an hour later my stats are back down to nothing.
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01-31-2009 , 08:17 PM
Look at your stats by position imo and not overall. Can you post your vpip/pfr, etc from each position?
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02-07-2009 , 11:45 AM
Hey guys, I know 26K hands is not a large enough amount of data to give a decent educated answer to say were I may have leaks, but if you could go over the data I have, and point out some leaks, or things I must be doing wrong, I mostly play NL10 6-max, although at the start I was playing FR.

Ok, first of, Ill show my graph for my 26K hands:




As you can see, after 13K hands, I was more or less breaking even playing 6 tables, and for some stupid reason I gave 9 tables ago, because I thought if I play more tables, my hourly rate would go up. I nearly busted out so I tryed 4 tables, and it has been working like a charm.

Below is my player and summary stats:





Next here is my position stats:



I have been playing on Everest Poker for 16 days, now I'll show my total winning for each month:



Last 8 days of January:



First 8 days of February:



I started of with $100 in my everest account, I managed to sign up with a bonus, and it has helped me so much in terms of keeping me afloat.

My current BankRoll: $315.

Thanks for looking over my data, much appreciated, and if you have any feedback, also be much appreciated.
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02-07-2009 , 11:53 AM
I am not an expert by any means, but I would suggest a higher attempt to steal blinds in 10NL and above.
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02-07-2009 , 11:54 AM
Raise more, cold call less and never limp (I never limped in 2 years). You must steal alot more.
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02-07-2009 , 02:22 PM
You need to pay more attention to position. Your stats on the button are the same as for seats 1,2,3. You should be loosening up on the button and CO, raising more hands, stealing more blinds.

Your att to steal is very low. It should be reaching the 30% percent mark (maybe a little less if you are not a particularly confident blind stealer).

Like the poster above mentions, you should be raising the vast majority of your hands when you are first to act, loosening your range the closer you get to the button. You should not be cold calling much, unless you have small/mid PPs, suited connectors in favorable situations (multiway pots, big stacks, in position etc).

You currently run at about 16/6. You vpip is ok for a beginner at 10nl, but you should be aiming to close the gap between vpip and pfr. Raise raise raise!
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02-07-2009 , 07:16 PM
OK

Steal More!!! You make your most money from the button so open your range up.

Raise more PF!!! This gives you more chances to win the pot. Whether you raise and everybody folds or you raise someone calls but then you Cbet and they fold.

Your VPIP should gradually increase from UTG to the button. Stay tight UTG and UTG+1 and open up on the CO and BTN.

Be more aggressive Cbet most flops when you were the PF raiser. 3bet more aswell 3% is too low. usually 5-6% is good as your not getting outta line.

Hope I Helped
JoeO

Good Luck at the Tables
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02-07-2009 , 08:02 PM
You don't seem positionally aware...open a ton more at CO/BTN.

You're playing way too nitty overall.
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02-08-2009 , 01:55 AM
Wow, today I have become more aggressive when in late position and on the button, and so far it has been working out for me, I also agree I should be 3betting more, have done so a little today and so far it has also worked out, thanks for your guys input.
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02-08-2009 , 06:07 AM
This is all 4 tabling 10NL on Stars. I really have no idea whats what when it comes to stats so let me know how it looks. Is there anything else I should be showing you that I didn't post here? Thanks!





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02-09-2009 , 10:04 PM
Hello, my friends.

I don't know if this is the correct thread but since i'm a beginner, i can't be that wrong

This sample is over 4k hands ( rather small, i know ) but i would like to know if i'm going in the right direction.

I've been reading a lot of stuff being the ryan fee's max 6 guide the latest read and i think i'm improving but i do have amazing swings: on last saturday i was down for over 25$, stopped playing, charge back later that night and on sunday and i got the 5$ "back" and a little more.

Today i've played for more or less an hour and a half and i'm down 6$. I don't mind about the money at this point, just want to know if this are just swings that are normal, regarding the hours i play ( usually two or such ).

I think when i play more i can manage to overdraw the swing, since more hands equals less "luck" factor.

Either way, i've been reviewing the hands for the session today to find a fault on my game.

Lost some of them in a "stupid" way and others were just big coolers.

I'll try to post some of them later on but i don't have much doubt on when i've played them wrong.

This are my stats.



ANY input would and will be VERY appreciated since i don't think i've got what it takes to get a monthly paycheck out of this in a near future but i do want to gather a "solid bad luck proof based on good game" bankrool.\

Thank you my friends!


ps.: i've been playing now on UB despite the fact i don't trust the site very much nor like it eh eh. but i know, it's one of the sites to play with my br ( < 100$ ). My stakes: 0.01 / 0.02 $ nl max6

Last edited by Consolas; 02-09-2009 at 10:23 PM.
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02-09-2009 , 10:14 PM
even though your sample size is too small there is some value in it for you if i put this here....but you might want to fix the image...its too small....but fromw hat i can see your VPIP is about 25 and your pfr is 11, is that is true....you arent raising preflop nearly enough and probably arent playing hands preflpop like fees says......goodluck
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02-09-2009 , 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by OziBattler
even though your sample size is too small there is some value in it for you if i put this here....but you might want to fix the image...its too small....but fromw hat i can see your VPIP is about 25 and your pfr is 11, is that is true....you arent raising preflop nearly enough and probably arent playing hands preflpop like fees says......goodluck
Thanks for the info!

Let me try to put the image better

ps.: twoplustwo staff, sorry about the post on the wrong place!

EDIT: done
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