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05-05-2010 , 01:57 PM
Niranjana: from your stats we can't conclude any leaks, but I can make a guess. You play very tight preflop, whic should be OK.
Postflop your aggression number seem really high, even for someone with your tightness. It looks to me like you are being slightly overaggressive, and some opponents have learned they can profitably call you down with medium-strength hands. Given your showdown stats and W$WSF, I think it's likely you are barreling with air/weakish hands too often. Your 3bet numbers preflop are relatively high compared to your VPIP/PFR, so maybe you are overplaying a bit there too, but I dont really know.
In your place I would cut out some fanciness and re-concentrate on pure value. Still a bit of a guess though.
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05-06-2010 , 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by fabadam
Niranjana: from your stats we can't conclude any leaks, but I can make a guess. You play very tight preflop, whic should be OK.
Postflop your aggression number seem really high, even for someone with your tightness. It looks to me like you are being slightly overaggressive, and some opponents have learned they can profitably call you down with medium-strength hands. Given your showdown stats and W$WSF, I think it's likely you are barreling with air/weakish hands too often. Your 3bet numbers preflop are relatively high compared to your VPIP/PFR, so maybe you are overplaying a bit there too, but I dont really know.
In your place I would cut out some fanciness and re-concentrate on pure value. Still a bit of a guess though.
Thx, for the analysis. I think you are write. I already got some explanations as I posted some stats in the full ring stat analysis threat. ou see it very clearly. I did feel great 2 weeks running hot + ~20 stacks. After that when I drop down ~23 stacks I had the feeling that all regs have enough stats from me and exploit this. Now it is more difficult for me to play against them. I need to find out my abc style again.
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05-09-2010 , 07:43 PM
yoo guys, im starting a roll again from scratch, played rougly 8k hands at 5nl and 10nl. if any of you could take your time to look at my stats and inform me of any leaks and so on it would be much appreciated
Peaceee



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05-09-2010 , 07:54 PM
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05-09-2010 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamie Goldeen
samplesize
surely 8k hands is enough for a quick stats check?? no?
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05-10-2010 , 01:38 AM
JonReremy: a quick check doesn't really show any leaks, looks pretty solid. You look extremely aggressive postflop and I'm not sure this will work alright in the longer term, but it can certainly work if done right.
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05-10-2010 , 04:53 PM
4tabling 25nl I guess im doing fine, but still can't get my aggression up, when I try It feels like im spewing and losing :/.. other comments on my stats?




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05-11-2010 , 03:20 AM
shotgut: Good results, but yes, you do look weirdly passive.
First, I think you can 3-bet more. It looks like you're just 3-betting QQ+/AK from your stats. Surely you encounter some habitual stealers when you're in the blinds? Start 3-betting them wider (like TT+, all broadways or something similar). They'll fold to your 3-bets a ton, probably because they have J8o or similar.
Also, you are betting less than 30% postflop. If you'd only bet wheneven you hit the flop, you'd bet more, so there must be room for more aggression. Similarly, your c-bet% is only 50%, which is silly -- if you just c-bet all HU pots in position, you'll probably get to 60% or so.
Finally, your W$SD is 60%, while your WTSD is still quite high. To me that looks like you are not value betting enough. Just value bet more, especially on the river. Very often villains will fold (for example, because they have a missed draw), but sometimes they'll call with a worse hand.
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05-11-2010 , 09:24 AM
Hi guys

Ok so I have had HEM for like 10 days.
And when I start using it, I took a look at my graph past 10 days or so.

nice graph! (or atleast I think so hehe)

But now, after being glad, past 2 days have been HORRIBLE



as you can see on that graph..... Im thinking If I was just running
hot and now I just run normal or something? It's like everyone
has just some sick read on me last days, my c-bet never work, and when
I bluff I just loose and I barely get value when I do HIT my hands now, dno just weird..

So I decided to take a look on my stats, but then I realized, I dont know what
is good and whats bad and what I really need to fix in my game at my stake (25NL)
Here they are (btw I am 12 tabling):


thank you
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05-11-2010 , 11:04 AM
ttengdur: You don't say whether you are playing fullring or 6-max. If the latter, you are the biggest nit in the history of poker. If it's full-ring, then you are a very tight player.
Anyway it looks like you only play premium hands and then only continue betting postflop if you are pretty sure you have the best hand.
That's good as basic strategy, but I think you may be playing too tight and predictable. I suspect that any regulars you play against have by now categorized you as "set mining nit" or something similar, so they'll fold when you bet. If you're 12-tabling, regulars will get a read on you I would think.
Also, it may just be runot/bad a lot too: you play so tight that even over 10k hands, there aren't all that many hands that you actually play. In 10k hands, I guess you'll have around 20 or 30 all-ins, with an average equity of 57% according to the leakbuster pic. It's like throwing dice , where 1-2, you lose, 3 is breakeven, 4-6 you win. You'll win that in the long run, but over samples of 30 throws, there's gonna be huge variance.
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05-11-2010 , 06:05 PM
I'm new to the forums, been playing for a couple of years, but have been taking it a lot more seriously over the last 3 months. I've had PT3 since then and here are my stats. I've got a sample size of about 25k hands and I know there's major leaks in my game. I was hoping to get some help in identifying them and seeing what I can do to fix them.

I play full ring games, and although there are some stats for limit games, I'm only focusing on 2NL right now, and want to break this level before moving on.







Thanks in advance for any advice.

Last edited by London Card Player; 05-11-2010 at 06:09 PM. Reason: added info
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05-11-2010 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by fabadam
ttengdur: You don't say whether you are playing fullring or 6-max. If the latter, you are the biggest nit in the history of poker. If it's full-ring, then you are a very tight player.
Anyway it looks like you only play premium hands and then only continue betting postflop if you are pretty sure you have the best hand.
That's good as basic strategy, but I think you may be playing too tight and predictable. I suspect that any regulars you play against have by now categorized you as "set mining nit" or something similar, so they'll fold when you bet. If you're 12-tabling, regulars will get a read on you I would think.
Also, it may just be runot/bad a lot too: you play so tight that even over 10k hands, there aren't all that many hands that you actually play. In 10k hands, I guess you'll have around 20 or 30 all-ins, with an average equity of 57% according to the leakbuster pic. It's like throwing dice , where 1-2, you lose, 3 is breakeven, 4-6 you win. You'll win that in the long run, but over samples of 30 throws, there's gonna be huge variance.
Yes its true its not enough big sample. I play 9-max fullring.
I play really really tight, I know, while 12 tabling.

This is bascily my strategy:
In early pos, pocket-pairs and AK (sometimes AQ)
Middle pos, pocket-pairs AK/AQ (sometimes AJ/QK)
Late pos, pocket-pairs AK/AQ/AJ/QK
on Button, same + every suited/connected hand.

I usally (very often) bet on flop, weather I hit or not
And try to take it down or get value from worse.
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05-12-2010 , 02:29 AM
Feel like I got a good sample size for you guys and to see if you can help me out. I 4 table .5/.10 cent full ring cash. I feel like some days I can just crush it other days its just like what is going on. I know I got some leaks and would like to see what you guys think.



Graph. Lately my EV line has been pretty bad haha at about 78$ I think.



Hmm for some reason I cant post the little player statistics one but it only saves as a weird extension. If you got any questions I guess ask. Hopefully those are the two right images you need.
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05-12-2010 , 02:49 AM
ToDrunkToFish:
Your preflop play is way too passive. You have a VPIP of 21 and PFR of only 4%. That means you are basically just limping/calling preflop, probably "hoping to see a cheap flop". A VPIP of 21 preflop is probably too high (that is, too loose), and the PFR of 4 is much too low.
Basically, you want to play a hand preflop if you think you probably have the best hand. If so, you should raise and not call. Calling is just for a few speculative hands that hope to hit a dream flop (small pocket pairs and suited connectors).
So I think you should raise up with strong hands, lip along with the speculative hands. Don't ever open-limp; it's actually not crazy in early position full-ring, but you should get rid of the habit. When you are first in, either fold or raise.
And stop limping all sorts of mediocre hands -- limping with KTo and the like in multi-way pots is bad because of the threat of domination.

Postflop your numbers are a bit better. Your agrression frequencies look OK, but your Aggression Facto is still too low. This means you still call too much. Again, you raise withthe best hands, and fold the worst hand, unless you get good enough odds to draw.
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05-12-2010 , 05:55 AM
Are my pics showing up? I can't see them, but if your right click, and open in new tab, they do come up. Anyone know why this is?
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05-12-2010 , 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by London Card Player
Are my pics showing up? I can't see them, but if your right click, and open in new tab, they do come up. Anyone know why this is?
I can see there are links in your post, but they look wrong, because normally imageshack links are much longer.
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05-12-2010 , 09:38 AM
OK, this is the direct link to the image shack page. I'm basically using the direct links that imageshack provide to the bottom right of each picture in the links list. Hopefully it will work.

This is the link to my imageshack page;
http://profile.imageshack.us/user/londoncardplayer/

and this is the direct link to the pictures;
All details,
http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/718/alldetails.png

All games,
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/4595/allgames.png

Player Stats,
http://img29.imageshack.us/i/playerstats.jpg/

Poker Graph,
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/1323/pokergraph.png

Position Stats,
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5...itionstats.png


Added info;

I'm new to the forums, been playing for a couple of years, but have been taking it a lot more seriously over the last 3 months. I've had PT3 since then and here are my stats. I've got a sample size of about 25k hands and I know there's major leaks in my game. I was hoping to get some help in identifying them and seeing what I can do to fix them.

I play full ring games, and although there are some stats for limit games, I'm only focusing on 2NL right now, and want to break this level before moving on.

Last edited by London Card Player; 05-12-2010 at 09:40 AM. Reason: Additional Info
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05-12-2010 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by London Card Player
All details,



Player Stats,


Position Stats,



I play full ring games, and although there are some stats for limit games, I'm only focusing on 2NL right now, and want to break this level before moving on.
LCP: I've tried to include the images. As you can see, it works for me with the img tags around the URLs.

To poker:
Preflop you are calling WAY too much. You only raise 6% of hands (in all positions), but limp more and more in later position. In general, you should enter most pots with a raise, or fold. The only limpable hands are smallish pocket pairs nad lower suited connectors -- speculative hands that play well multi-way.
With all other hands, raise if you have a good hand (AK, AQ, KQ), and fold marginal hands probably (JTo, Kjo, etc).

Postflop, you are also much too loose-passive. Again, bet/raise with the best hand, fold when you think you have the worst hand. Only call when you are getting odds to draw. Your aggression factor (#bets/#calls) should be 3 or higher on most streets, or at least above 2.5.

EDIT: 2nd picture doesnt show -- it has a strange URL which can probably not be put in a link.
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05-12-2010 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by fabadam
LCP: I've tried to include the images. As you can see, it works for me with the img tags around the URLs.

To poker:
Preflop you are calling WAY too much. You only raise 6% of hands (in all positions), but limp more and more in later position. In general, you should enter most pots with a raise, or fold. The only limpable hands are smallish pocket pairs nad lower suited connectors -- speculative hands that play well multi-way.
With all other hands, raise if you have a good hand (AK, AQ, KQ), and fold marginal hands probably (JTo, Kjo, etc).

Postflop, you are also much too loose-passive. Again, bet/raise with the best hand, fold when you think you have the worst hand. Only call when you are getting odds to draw. Your aggression factor (#bets/#calls) should be 3 or higher on most streets, or at least above 2.5.

EDIT: 2nd picture doesnt show -- it has a strange URL which can probably not be put in a link.
Thanks for the input Fabadam, here's a list of things I'm going to get to work on right away. Let me know what you think;

1/ Tighten up a lot more pre-flop.
2/ Raise with at least 70-80% of the hands I enter the pot with pre-flop.
3/ Bet out / Raise more on and after the flop instead calling down.
4/ Only play speculative hands (SC's and Small pairs) for cheap, against multiple opponents.

I'm sure there's a lot more, but I'm going to focus on these for now, and post new stats once I've improved on these things.

Thanks
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05-14-2010 , 05:59 PM
sup ppls, just been looking at my stats, and was looking to see how my blind stats look, i seem too nitty from the BB, and too loose from the sb? is this right
its only like 15k hands as i reformatted my computer


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05-15-2010 , 05:52 AM
Mark89er:
From the BB winamount, I see that this is (at least on average) $0.20 big blinds. Are you really playing NL20 somewhere or is it a mix of NL10 and NL25?
Anyway, the stats per se don't necessarily mean you are too loose from the SB: I suspect a lot of the SB raising is SBvsBB blind battle, and a lot of the SB calling is limping for half a BB in a multi-way pot, for which you often get odds with nearly any 2.
BTW, your'BB result is truly stunning, and almost certainly running hot in the BB, but it does show that you can play really tight in the BB and do well.
Also, your jump in VPIP/PFR between CO and button is quite LOL, but not bad -- just shows how pwerful the button is.
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05-16-2010 , 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by fabadam
Mark89er:
From the BB winamount, I see that this is (at least on average) $0.20 big blinds. Are you really playing NL20 somewhere or is it a mix of NL10 and NL25?
Anyway, the stats per se don't necessarily mean you are too loose from the SB: I suspect a lot of the SB raising is SBvsBB blind battle, and a lot of the SB calling is limping for half a BB in a multi-way pot, for which you often get odds with nearly any 2.
BTW, your'BB result is truly stunning, and almost certainly running hot in the BB, but it does show that you can play really tight in the BB and do well.
Also, your jump in VPIP/PFR between CO and button is quite LOL, but not bad -- just shows how pwerful the button is.
thanks sir, def running good, its good tho coz I think i have used up all my run bad, lol!! theres like a big spew spell in there, maybe 5-7bis!
this is all nl20 nothing else!! i seriously didnt even know how tight i was playing in the bb till there o was talking about stats to ppls, it looks like im only playing pp's and aj+ thats all, seemed very tight!
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05-17-2010 , 08:48 AM
Got 10k hands with 2NL and 5NL combined. Just recently went on a decent sized downswing.









Generally my playstyle is to TAG for a bit until I have around 60+ hands at a table and have observed it a bit and then I loosen up and try to LAG and control the table, it's been working out fairly well the majority of the time, but I know I probably have a lot of leaks.
I appreciate any feedback.
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05-17-2010 , 03:18 PM
DaLimit: You are not playing TAG, you are playing loose passive preflop, and loose aggressive postflop. You are coldcalling nearly 10% which is definitely way too high, and just limping way too much in general.
Your postflop figures seem to indicate you bet like crazy there, which seems to be working rather well for you, but I don't think this is generally good ABC poker, which is what is called for in the micros. IMO, you should basically STOP limping preflop, and focus more on strong hands. Limping 13% of hands in EP is really a big leak. The same so for other positions.
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05-17-2010 , 04:07 PM
No I was saying I play tag for my initial few hands to just sorta scope out how everyone plays at the table, then lag after that.
Thanks for the feedback.
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