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11-11-2009 , 09:47 AM
This is my Oct-Nov graph/stats for 2nl 6-max. I still have remnants of a SB leak I know.


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11-11-2009 , 12:58 PM
Hey guys I have been a long time lurker of the site and figured with one of my first posts I would post some stats for advice. This is my first "real" attempt at bank roll management and NL cash. I played mostly SNG's on stars but nothing too serious. So I opened a FT account, got rakeback, have been reading a ton on here and I am hoping to learn the in and outs of NL cash. Here are my fist 10K or so hands on FT. I have not been running well at all and am kind of embarrassed to post these. I am sure there are a ton of leaks so any and all advice is wanted and needed. Thanks in advance....


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11-11-2009 , 10:21 PM
Just took a glance while 5 tabling so this may be wrong. But if that's 6-max you're playing a little bit too snug imo. The looser players are probably abusing you and you're probably folding a little bit too much based on your went to show down numbers.
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11-12-2009 , 04:29 AM
Hammy, you look like a weak-tight nit from those stats. Your preflop figures are reasonable, if nitty. Definitely steal more on button and cutoff.

Postflop, your figures are very strange. I've never seen such a high W$SD and still a fairly high WTSD. This makes me think you are not value betting hard enough. Also your AFq is reasonably high but your AF still below 3. This, combined with your showdown and non-showdown results makes it look like you are the type that floats the flop a lot but then gives up on turn or river.

All this is guesswork from just stats, but you are definitely either getting pushed off winners, or don't valuebet your winners hard enough. And possibly never manage tp ush anyone off a hand too, since you seem to win very few hands without showdown.
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11-12-2009 , 04:32 AM
Blane, your stats show only preflop figures. From these, it's the familiar leak: you limp (along) way too often. Generally speaking, your PRF/VPIP ratio should be at least .75 or so.
Not much else to say other than nice results, you are doing somethings right at least.
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11-12-2009 , 06:01 AM


Does that cover my postflop too? I agree I tend to limp a lot but having played a lot more hands at 10nl and 25nl then I did previously here I felt I had a postflop edge so I don't mind seeing cheap flops. I've been trying to turn my aggression up as well.
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11-12-2009 , 10:59 AM
That's showing your AF (Aggression Factor = (# bets + #raises) / # calls) as 1.88, while still an Agg Freq of 41% (quite high).
Normally that means your AF is way too low, in this case because you call way too much. You should be folding/raising more than calling in general.

The general rule is quite easy: when ahead, raise; when behind, fold unless you're getting odds to call.

There are a few situation when you want to call down (against maniacs that bet as long as you just call, but fold when you raise, for example) but in general calling is the least preferred option.

(NOTE: I have only 2 figures to go by -- you can see a lot more if you look at more of your postflop stats yourself. Like, what's the AF per street, check/raise%, etc)
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11-12-2009 , 05:15 PM
Hello,

I used to 4 table .25/.50 NL
I eventually became over confident and ignored bankroll management.
I ran bad, played worse, took a shot at 100NL and blew my bank roll.

I have since swallowed my pride, and moved back down to 8 table NL10 and started my roll all over again.

Here are the results.




As for what i have learned from this is that i feel like i can finally take a bad beat, laugh it off, and keep on playing.
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11-12-2009 , 05:17 PM
now learn to get a blog
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11-12-2009 , 05:20 PM
Touché!
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11-12-2009 , 05:31 PM
man I hate how HEM arranges their stats placing pfr all the way to the right. Anyhoo, nice work.
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11-12-2009 , 05:36 PM
i only unnerstand garphs
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11-12-2009 , 05:45 PM
garf
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11-12-2009 , 05:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sofocused978
man I hate how HEM arranges their stats placing pfr all the way to the right. Anyhoo, nice work.
i am ghetto

i use Poker Tracker V2.
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11-12-2009 , 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by fabadam
Hammy, you look like a weak-tight nit from those stats. Your preflop figures are reasonable, if nitty. Definitely steal more on button and cutoff.

Postflop, your figures are very strange. I've never seen such a high W$SD and still a fairly high WTSD. This makes me think you are not value betting hard enough. Also your AFq is reasonably high but your AF still below 3. This, combined with your showdown and non-showdown results makes it look like you are the type that floats the flop a lot but then gives up on turn or river.

All this is guesswork from just stats, but you are definitely either getting pushed off winners, or don't valuebet your winners hard enough. And possibly never manage tp ush anyone off a hand too, since you seem to win very few hands without showdown.

Any advice on how to change for the better?
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11-14-2009 , 06:15 PM
Just looking for a little info to see if these stats are flawed in any way. If more information is needed, let me know. Thanks for any input!



Edit: Fixed Link

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11-14-2009 , 06:16 PM
don't click the link people

Last edited by sofocused978; 11-14-2009 at 06:17 PM. Reason: adultfriendfinder crap
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11-14-2009 , 06:21 PM
I uploaded on Imagevenue as "Family Safe"

What should I use instead?
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11-14-2009 , 06:22 PM
photobucket ldo
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11-14-2009 , 06:25 PM
Link is photobucket now, thanks for the advice
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11-14-2009 , 06:27 PM
stats look good to me bro
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11-14-2009 , 08:06 PM
I am currently on my third shot at 25NL 6max and going well thusfar. Your stats are almost identical to mine apart from my 3-bet pre is a tad higher.

In general I would say these are pretty solid Stats to beat the game.
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11-14-2009 , 08:16 PM
This is also what my stats have been at 25NL. I think i was like 20/17 with a little bit higher 3bet also.
I might try lagging it up a bit though, because most people at 25nl are playing this tight/abc style.
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11-14-2009 , 08:26 PM
There is a beginner's stat thread.

You barely steal enough, and are calling too much.

How big is the sample? You W$SD is too high.
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11-16-2009 , 06:11 PM
HI, I play NL10 for 10k hands for the most part is 6tabling but last 4 k hands is 10 table which I've found alot better allows me to almost not tilt and play dumb hands


here's graph and stats, some opinions ty






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