How would a 60/40 edge like all in preflop relate to a house edge in blackjack? Would you call the 60/40 preflop a 20% edge?

^Meant to put in the dumb questions thread sorry

Hi Everyone,

This is my first post to try and get some feedback of my play. I have wanted to really give grinding a try for a long time and finally got the opportunity. I just completed a round of 10k hands at 2NL full ring, and it looks like I have some leaks to plug.

I'm sure there are some immediate things to fix, and from what I can guess is that I play too many hands, and am folding too often in pots. It feels like I have run pretty poorly when all-in overall, but I am new to PT and learning how to look at the graphs and stats. I have been playing 4 tables, and I feel like that may be too much for me to properly pay attention at this point, if my stats reflect that, please let me know. I know I probably have a ton to work on, but please help me by pointing on the immediately important aspects I need to improve that will help my BB Won the most.

Any feedback is truly appreciated, thanks so much for taking the time to have a look.

looking for help why I suck thanks for any feedback

any ideas on where I need improvement? the showdown went quite low where I was running into KK vs AA, nut straight vs flush etc but I'm slowly getting it back up.

I also think I could get more hands to showdown

Never really used tracking software, but this is my net won for yesterday, today is pretty similar (on a different laptop so can't post)



I get a little run going, then get in all in against someone and they hit on the river, so my actual profit is next to nothing. I've being playing pretty well, little tilt but I'm getting used to the beats now.



What should I do to stop spewing profit?? After an hour come off take a break and start again, set a profit limit and stop. Looking at that chart and looking how much my roll has actually increased is tilting me.

This seems to be the only graph i can get on hold'em manager trail, got a few thousand hands on another lap top which i don't have the HH for.

This is my last 3 sessions, the actual profit I'm showing is about $6. After i build a bit of a stack I seem to get it all in with a set and they have turn a bigger set or have 2 pair and hit a full house. Not a problem its all part of the game, I prefer playing a buy in or 2 up on everyone else because the guys who donk a stack will get rid of it eventually. The only thing I can think of is after I win a buy in, come out and start a new table.

I haven't been active in this forum in ages, randomly got an update in this thread.

Here's a few tips for the recent posts.... Please note, I haven't played for three years or so, so take it or leave it.


If you think you are +EV on a table; aren't tilting; and possibly causing worse players to tilt - why would you leave?

You need a bigger sample, you are running hot and no pfr/vpip stats.


@thinlysliced:
Your vpip and pfr are too far apart. Play less hands, and when you do: be the pre flop raiser more often. Don't open limp as a general rule.

@friedfish:
Stop calling in the blinds, just stop. Tighten up heaps in the blinds - keep the rest the same for now, then slowly work out where you can play back in the blinds. ATM you are better off folding every SB/BB without even looking at your hand.

@thechallenge:
Keep going, looks good - get more hands and come back. When I was playing FR I used to like playing 19/15 so i'd be looking for more spots to show preflop aggression but miaybe what you're playing is good for 5nl. In future maybe get the pfr up a bit. On the flip, plenty of guys were doing well playing 15/12 up to 50nl.

GL guys.

Cheers its that fast fold poker I'm playing, sort of banking my profit. Just about to bust my account anyway, got kk in vs aa 3 times, kk into 33 and ak flopped two pair, got the chips in vs a5 runner runner straight flush. Down to under a buy in now.

That's just a 6BI swing. If you play 10k hands a week it will happen every week. Wait til you have a 10-20BI swing or a 100k hand break even stretch (not uncommon for even solid winning players). Sounds like you need to get used to variance.

I've always had massive swings, i only deposit $10 a time, I know its poor br management but I always triple it up and bounce up and down, normally get a good few weeks/month out of it, I just pass money round from donk to donk.



Just deposited at stars, decided to play some nl2 zoom. **** me how tough, people flatting 4 bets with A8o, q3o, chasing sets down to the river on scary boards, not folding any overcards . Was all over the place, cannot put these guys on a hand, hit the flop hard, turn is a card that doesn't improve any straights or flushes, they flip over a set. Raise AA, flops 932, barrel into them, they're flipping over 32. Are solid players playing this limit now/rakeback grinders??? Should I stick to normal games till I have 20+ buy ins??? I'm upto 12 but was at 17 until my last 3 hands, I think I can beat this but based on the few hundred hands I just played its gonna be a crazy ride.

Still holding strong after 21k hands with some downswings/coolers

That sounds like the best game in the world to be in. I would never leave that table.


Good stuff mate, keep it up. Just keep in your mind that this is still a relatively small sample, so don't go kicking ponies if your winrate drops over the next 20k. Keep playing solid.

It is hard to leave, but you get guise and their AK in on the turn, they flip over k8 and bink the river. This happens every 4 or 5 big hands.

for a full ring zoom players I'm trying to catogarise them. Are these numbers close

NIT. Under 10vpip
TAG VPIP 12-15 PFR 10-12
Semi loose VPIP 16-19 PFR 12-14 PFR maybe someone who calls too many 3bts
LAG 20-26 VPIP 18-22 PFR
LAP 20+ VPIP 10 PFR
IM Almost at 10k hands so will be able to post my stats at that point

Amazing to say the least. Woman to my right at a $1 $2 table had exact hand the other day vs my 56o Flop was KK5 turn 5 river brick She had the bigger boat and i stormed out of the casino

This question might be one with some incomplete info but maybe the experts can piece it together with limited info i have. Many times i will tune into poker podcasts and they do hand of the week or basic hand review from a listener or email. Because they figure that most of the listeners are experienced players or have played for more than 5 yrs , they can get by with different theories on hand strength without explaining the basics as to why. For instance a hand from a listener was evaluated and the host of the show mentioned something about an Ace on the flop playing a factor in how the betting structure from this individual could be determined on future streets. My question is without complete info on my end (exact hand etc) , how does an Ace on the flop change the way we bet raise or possibly fold if by chance our hand does not include or include an Ace?

Because different ranges hit different flops, basically.

I thought if i folded every BB i would lose 100bb/100 and sb lose 50 bb/100 no? I was thinking that my stats from those positions are ok

Your stats for the blinds were fine, but could be better. If one of them went above -50bb/100 that would be very worrying. (Remember that sometimes you get a walk in the BB, and you can also wake up with a real hand that is worth more than 1bb).

Hello, im not new to the game but im bad enough not to move up consistently and currently am staying in the 4nl level over at the Partypoker network, help me out guys on this one





still rolled enough for 4nl but will move down to 2nl if necesary so i can plug my leaks

thanks arty do you see anything that i can takeaway to become better? I am trying to improve and am lost - thanks for any feedback

Hello outthere,

While my sun installed last year a „poker copilot“ on my mac i got data for this post.
Please risk a look at the screenshots
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/kmw42nebp...7ZaFLFALa?dl=0
and just tell me your oppinion 'bout this player type. I feel a bit overstrained with the analysis.

The pic called 9MaxXXX _08 is possibly a mistake by the poker copilot. Not quite sure but it seem to be an abnormity? I suppose that abnorm 10% finishes issue is caused by 9maxsingletable sng which i crushed at just one pokerroom(so i can filter it). The pic 9MaxMTT_08 is OK.
A few small questions refered to the 9maxMTT pics:
1. What do you think 'bout the small % 3bet in comparison to the very high % of 4bet. Is this one of my leaks?
I reviewed most of my 4bet hands and analyse it. I discovered a lot of moronal activity – most of those in freerolls. But i also discovered a bunch of great play (position, opponents, stakes and card value).
Just a hypotesis: I adapt my game instinctively to the table and at the lowest levels most of the opponents ar not very impresssed by a 3bet.
2. Should i reduce the wts rate to increase my was %rate? I'm a bit too loose, am i?

I'll appreciate every constructive comment to the MTT topic.

The ultimate reason for this post is the big discrepance between my cashgame winnings and the rake i paid. That's realy creepy. Here i need every advice and -i suppose - an answer to the same two small questions.
Am i dumber then a well tuned bot? Recently i saw a documentary 'bout AI and poker bots with am average of 5BB and under circumstances higher per 100 hands.

I just can hope the „crowd intelligency“ will give me the hint for which i'm blind.
Thx in advance and for u're patience, George.

hello geekybratt

in my opinion those points can be criticise:
1. gameplay from early position!
the gap between vpip and pfr is very small - means that u limp a lot from EP (!) and then (cold)call in 51% 3bet. Must be blessed with very strong hand range in this position OR your opponents behind you (and theres any position behind you except the blinds) are exploiting you consistently (barreling from behind). NO, now i see it - you are barreling cbet tcbet and a very high AF from this position(!). Why? For Value? Protecting AA vs a flushdraw or trips vs streetdrw? please don't feel embrassed - i got similar thinking as i took a look at my stats
2. SB & BBplay - similar.
3. not quite sure - but your but calling range seems a bit to tight.

Just my opinion - without pretending to be the right one.
Offtopic: Do you think it's smart to post your clear poker name, your momentanly bankroll, and your soul - your gameplay in one thread?

Your stats looked pretty good. Maybe a little looser than I'd recommend, but not bad by any means. A proper leakfinder would require more comprehensive stat analysis.