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Old 04-26-2009, 01:21 PM   #351
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Re: ** Official Beginners NL Holdem Stats Thread **

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Found this graph, normal? (I play FR)
looks like this is filtered for hands that are HU on the flop, and you didn't raise preflop. Your'e losing money steadily in these hands, so....

don't call preflop so much. (or fight harder for pots when you do).
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Old 04-26-2009, 04:00 PM   #352
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looks like this is filtered for hands that are HU on the flop, and you didn't raise preflop. Your'e losing money steadily in these hands, so....

don't call preflop so much. (or fight harder for pots when you do).
Ye, extremely big leak... I have 15.11/10 in LP I call with AXs, small PPs, and KTs kinda hands if someone has limped, otherwise I raise them. Think that's kinda standard. Could anyone else give any suggestion to my bad graph?
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Old 04-26-2009, 07:52 PM   #353
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Re: ** Official Beginners NL Holdem Stats Thread **





Sorry about the images, yet again I fail posting screenshots.

I'm hoping to move up to 10nl sometime in next 3-4 weeks, I have heard theres a significant difference between the two levels and I want to try fix some of my leaks if possible.

I'm guessing there is alot I should be improving on, but what would you suggest is most important in order to successfully move up?

Thanks.
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Old 04-27-2009, 06:01 AM   #354
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Re: ** Official Beginners NL Holdem Stats Thread **

Losing faith here people...really need some solid advice!

Moved to Full Tilt with $600 at the very end of March and i've been having the swingiest time ever since, culminating in a massive losing stretch this weekend - got up to $850 at one point and them BOOM, down I go...if it wasn't for the blessing that is rakeback I would have decimated the majority of my roll by now.

Just checked through my hands from the weekend and I genuinely got coolered or sucked out on at least 80% of my biggest losing hands.

What I know and am going to work on:

Playing too nitty
Limping too much - if it's good enough to play it's good enough to raise, right?
Playing too many hands from the blinds
Playing for too long in one session

Here are my stats/graph, etc...I would REALLY appreciate some advice here people as I am at my wits end...I know I can at least play OK as I took a $20 deposit to $800 at PS before cashing out and moving to FT.

Thanks in advance, BB







Also, I'm thinking about taking a week off and watching (and re-watching) all of my DC videos, then going back down to NL10 for a bit next week.
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Old 04-27-2009, 10:29 AM   #355
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Beer- Way too tight, way too passive. Pound on them in position, right now you're just way too passive postflop, at 25nl since they don't play back at cbet I suggest cbetting 75%+.

You are not positionally aware your early range is roughly the same as your btn range, that is very bad. For comparision I play 21/18 but my ep is 13/13.

SB is a raise/fold spot, limp only when bb is super loose and you can't steal, or the table limps and you have a good speculative hand.
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Old 04-27-2009, 11:49 AM   #356
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Re: ** Official Beginners NL Holdem Stats Thread **

Thanks for the input BitchiBee, what really bugs me is that I DO know this...I just can't seem to implement into my game, like some mental ******* block or something.

Really does help having someone point out the all too obvious flaws...thanks again.

Going to have a few days off to re-evaluate and get the hell back in there!
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Old 04-28-2009, 05:17 PM   #357
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Sorry about the images, yet again I fail posting screenshots.

I'm hoping to move up to 10nl sometime in next 3-4 weeks, I have heard theres a significant difference between the two levels and I want to try fix some of my leaks if possible.

I'm guessing there is alot I should be improving on, but what would you suggest is most important in order to successfully move up?

Thanks.
My stats that bad no amount of advice can help me? lol.

Seriously though, I'm planning on taking a few days to try improve my play, read articles watching video's review play etc. Any advice would be great so I know what to focus on. Maybe I need to provide more/better images of PT?

Thanks.
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Old 04-28-2009, 11:17 PM   #358
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Ye, extremely big leak... I have 15.11/10 in LP I call with AXs, small PPs, and KTs kinda hands if someone has limped, otherwise I raise them. Think that's kinda standard. Could anyone else give any suggestion to my bad graph?
Your graph is not overlimped hands, which would always be 3+ to the flop. These are heads-up where you didn't raise, which means you called a raise, if my calculations are correct.

And I don't agree that Axs is a standard overlimp, especially to 1 limper -- just fold it without more reason to play. From LP, I'd raise 1 or 2 limpers. Small PP should usually be raised and cbet. KTs does not like a multiway pot so much, so I raise limpers, or fold depending on action.

15/10 in late position? what are you utg???? 2+2 breeds nits. Bet!
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Old 04-30-2009, 04:00 AM   #359
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BeerBatter--doesn't FT have atrocious rake for micro stakes games--10% instead of 5% or something? I think I remember seeing that somewhere. That can't be helping.
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Old 04-30-2009, 09:57 AM   #360
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Not anymore apparently...and I think that was just at 10NL or less?

Anyway, I don't think I could blame the rake...my game needs some serious adjustments!
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Old 04-30-2009, 03:12 PM   #361
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My stats that bad no amount of advice can help me? lol.
you're making money steadily, so don't apologize too much

still, you look pretty weak tight for 6max microstakes. You have the stats of a 24-tabling automaton, perhaps. Weak tight will make money at 2nl and 5nl, but it's not maximizing the value of your hands, and it's not developing skills you'll need at higher levels.

Your vpip is barely half of mine. Playing that tight you could probably raise your entire range. w$wsf is lowish, so you're not fighting very hard for pots you're in. w$@sd is high, so again you're giving up too easily. Attempt to steal is also low.

Some of this is the levels you're playing. You'll have a high w$@sd at 2nl because people are so willing to take garbage to showdown with you. But a number significantly above 50% means you're leaving money on the table.

You might think stealing blinds against people who hate to fold is -EV, but think of it this way: if the blinds always call, you could raise ATC on the button and have a hand once per orbit where you play with position and higher stakes and start the hand on the flop. yum. So unless you find the 5nl player who 3bets light from the blinds (in which case, find another chair), raise that button aggressively. Winning players abuse the button.
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Old 04-30-2009, 05:10 PM   #362
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I must be a natural nit, I was under the impression I was playing too aggressively

In the last month I feel like I have opened up a little, button vpip went from 17/15 to 19/16, hardly a huge jump I know but my results have improved. I admit I give up in alot of pots, trying to avoid marginal situations, this is something I will need to work on for 10nl as I'm guessing there isnt as many players spewing money.

Thanks for the advice
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Old 05-01-2009, 05:05 PM   #363
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Re: ** Official Beginners NL Holdem Stats Thread **

I think its time to check my stats one time before move up to NL100.

Non-SD-Winnings:



Stats:



Details:



Posi-stats:



Thx ;-)
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Old 05-02-2009, 10:57 AM   #364
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Re: ** Official Beginners NL Holdem Stats Thread **

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Old 05-02-2009, 02:04 PM   #365
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Re: ** Official Beginners NL Holdem Stats Thread **

too small dude
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Old 05-02-2009, 02:29 PM   #366
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Re: ** Official Beginners NL Holdem Stats Thread **

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too small dude
i know...

anyway, can anyone say a few words to my stats??? what´s obv. wrong?
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Old 05-02-2009, 03:32 PM   #367
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too small dude
I wasn't refering to sample size.
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Old 05-02-2009, 04:21 PM   #368
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I wasn't refering to sample size.
explain pls
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Old 05-02-2009, 04:31 PM   #369
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explain pls
I can`t ****ing see it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 05-03-2009, 06:15 AM   #370
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Re: ** Official Beginners NL Holdem Stats Thread **

click on the picture
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Old 05-03-2009, 10:41 AM   #371
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Re: ** Official Beginners NL Holdem Stats Thread **

O.k guys here´s another try
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Non-SD-Winnings:



Details:

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/5566/nl50shdetails.jpg

Posi:


I hope it works a little better now ;-)
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Old 05-03-2009, 10:54 AM   #372
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Stats look very solid, I would stay at 50nl for another 20k hands though because the W/R is lacking and although it could just be bad luck, it could also be lack of postflop skills.


Infact i'm pretty sure its bad luck as you're
-aggro postflop
-Cbet appropriately
-Barrel turn often. --- You should anaylisis this though, as you may be doing it Too much, its often the best move, but should not be over used.

3bet percentage is good, fold to 3bet is pretty bad 80% is a horrendous leak which should be rectified. At most this should be 70%, I think generally 60-70 being good.

This does not mean calling 3bets oop though, combating those with 4bets (don't do that against fish) is more the way to go. It not only that you're losing some ev by not calling some 3bets/4betting its that you're going to get expoilted for this at 100+, the regs there still suck at everything but now their good at pf, and you're just going to get 3bet in position everytime you open .
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Old 05-03-2009, 12:31 PM   #373
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Stats look very solid, I would stay at 50nl for another 20k hands though because the W/R is lacking and although it could just be bad luck, it could also be lack of postflop skills.


Infact i'm pretty sure its bad luck as you're
-aggro postflop
-Cbet appropriately
-Barrel turn often. --- You should anaylisis this though, as you may be doing it Too much, its often the best move, but should not be over used.

3bet percentage is good, fold to 3bet is pretty bad 80% is a horrendous leak which should be rectified. At most this should be 70%, I think generally 60-70 being good.

This does not mean calling 3bets oop though, combating those with 4bets (don't do that against fish) is more the way to go. It not only that you're losing some ev by not calling some 3bets/4betting its that you're going to get expoilted for this at 100+, the regs there still suck at everything but now their good at pf, and you're just going to get 3bet in position everytime you open .
THX ;-)


I also noticed that fold much to often to a 3b. If I notice that someone 3b me very often, sometimes I call SCs,PPs IP but to call stuff like AJs,AQo I feel not confident enough in my postflop game. Is there any articel or vid to become more confident in 3bet pots!?
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Old 05-03-2009, 06:36 PM   #374
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Can someone help me find some leaks so i can make more than 6ptbb ?? ty .
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Old 05-03-2009, 08:53 PM   #375
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If I notice that someone 3b me very often, sometimes I call...
Poker fundamentals question -- If you think a player is bluffing you, you should:

a) fold
b) call
c) raise!


3betting light in position is very profitable if your opponent will only ever fold or call. It becomes much less profitable if your opponent 4b bluffs (or semibluffs) with the appropriate frequency.

Also keep in mind that 3betting works really well against players that raise too wide a range preflop -- too many hands that don't want to be 3bet. Preflop aggression is a free ride at the lowest stakes where most opponents don't know how to counter it. Against a solid 3bettor, tighten your opening range back up a tad, so you have a more solid distribution of starting hands.

But all your numbers look very solid, including wtsd, w$@sd... I'm guessing you should look to postflop decisions, putting people on hands better, and exploiting better. At 50nl, you should be doing better in non-showdown pots, perhaps.
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