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06-05-2013 , 09:21 AM
Im no expert play similar stakes to you. But there is too big a gap between your VPIP & PFR. Also your c bet is little too high with only a 45% success. Pay more attention to your c bets and what villains you do it to. You could prob open up your range from the BTN/CO.
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06-05-2013 , 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by cundyno1
Im no expert play similar stakes to you. But there is too big a gap between your VPIP & PFR. Also your c bet is little too high with only a 45% success. Pay more attention to your c bets and what villains you do it to. You could prob open up your range from the BTN/CO.
Cheers, some things for me to work on there.

I think my gap between VPIP and PFR is a little high because I quite often complete the small blind with speculative hands after 2 or 3 players have limped in before me (seems to happen a lot at 2nl) and i'm getting odds of like 10 to 1. I do sometimes over-limp with small pocket pairs if more than a couple of players have limped in before me. I never open limp (well I say never, but there are some extremely rare cases that I have done)

I am probably still calling pre flop a little too often though. I think I need to start 3 betting/folding more of the hands that I have been calling with.

I will try and lower my Cbet%, i'm guessing around 70% would be a better idea?

I have opened up a lot more from CO/BTN recently with this more LAG style that I have adopted over the last 10k hands, and I will continue to do so.

Thanks for your reply.
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06-06-2013 , 11:28 PM
Move up. There's really not much else to say. The only significant criticism would be to play more hands in late position and less in early position but you're already addressing this so good job there.

Your cbet % is a little too high, so maybe look for spots where your cbets don't work very often. The key is to find the right spots to give up in, not to decrease your cbet % at any cost.
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06-07-2013 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by SquirrelsUnite
Move up. There's really not much else to say. The only significant criticism would be to play more hands in late position and less in early position but you're already addressing this so good job there.

Your cbet % is a little too high, so maybe look for spots where your cbets don't work very often. The key is to find the right spots to give up in, not to decrease your cbet % at any cost.
Thanks, i'll definitely be focusing on those things.

One other thing....Since my last post my bankroll is now at $84, so nearly at $100 now. Would that be enough to take a shot at 5nl? I usually buy-in for the max 250BB at 5nl, so i'm not sure. I could easily deposit more money, and claim some bonuses, but I think i'd rather just build up to it through playing.
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06-07-2013 , 06:15 PM
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Thanks, i'll definitely be focusing on those things.

One other thing....Since my last post my bankroll is now at $84, so nearly at $100 now. Would that be enough to take a shot at 5nl? I usually buy-in for the max 250BB at 5nl, so i'm not sure. I could easily deposit more money, and claim some bonuses, but I think i'd rather just build up to it through playing.
Depends on how comfortable you are with moving back down. Say you move down if you drop below $60. Then you're basically taking a 2 (deep) buyin shot. The chance that it doesn't work out is significant, probably around 50%.

If you're fine with that, take a shot. If not, or you think the risk might affect your play, grind some more or buy in for 100BBs.
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06-08-2013 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SquirrelsUnite
Depends on how comfortable you are with moving back down. Say you move down if you drop below $60. Then you're basically taking a 2 (deep) buyin shot. The chance that it doesn't work out is significant, probably around 50%.

If you're fine with that, take a shot. If not, or you think the risk might affect your play, grind some more or buy in for 100BBs.
Ok, i've decided to grind to $100, then move up to 5nl and go for 100BB buy-ins. I'll allow myself a 5 buy-in shot and them move back down to 2nl if i drop below $75. Seems reasonable?
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06-08-2013 , 06:49 PM
Yeah, I think that's quite safe.
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06-11-2013 , 08:56 AM
Quick check, I thought I was opening really wide from BTN, but perhaps even a bit more?

Positional Stats 2nl FR:


Last edited by DasCoupe; 06-11-2013 at 09:02 AM.
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06-11-2013 , 12:48 PM
You've only got yourself under 4k hands there. You need a min sample of 10k. But if you've identified a leak yourself then just go ahead and try a different approach and see how it goes

Btw, for FR you'll probably always get a better response in the FR forum as the may be nuances that us 6maxers don't get!
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06-11-2013 , 12:55 PM
Gotcha.

I got a 27k sample as well, but I've changed my style a bit and play a lot more positional now than I did.. my 4k sample is just from the last two days
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06-11-2013 , 12:58 PM
Well that sample spews you as a nit on the button, so yeah, either sample size or you're not doing what you think you are.

Some review away from the tables and study of opening ranges may help
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06-12-2013 , 04:57 PM
Just started $2 nl 6 max.

PT stats....

Any obvious problems with them????

VPIP/PFR/3B
24.5/17.3/4.3

AF 1.74

Flop
CBet flop 44%
Fold CBet 51.3%
Fold to FlopBet 51.4%
Flop AF 1.77
Flop AFq 44%


Turn
CBet 35.7%
AF 1.33
AFq 37.5%
Fold to T bet 52.6%

River
AF 2.43
AFq 52.3%
Fold to R bet 52%

Late Steal 31%
Fold Blnds to steal 79.6%
SB 3Bet steal Att 8%
BB 3Bet steal Att 4.5%


WSD 56.4%
WTSD 34.1%
WWSF 44.9%
WSD after river call 39%
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06-13-2013 , 08:16 AM



Hi all
I know i have a few hands, but what leaks did you see?
Thank you all, and excuse me for my english
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06-13-2013 , 08:46 AM
Urh I did reply to you indianss, but the thread got moved whilst I was typing it up and it's somehow been deleted... cba to type it all up again so here is shorter version...

basically from what I can see from your graph, you seem to be going to showdown too much with weaker holdings, maybe you're overplaying tptk or maybe you're river bluffing too much?

still learning myself but this is just my 2c
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06-13-2013 , 03:50 PM
^^Agree with FP.

You're bordering on LAG so you're gonna have to learn how to play better postflop. that means reading hands much better than you seem to be and not overplaying your hand. At this limit pure aggression does not always work as villains love to call. Find the ones that love to fold and batter them, but be careful of the passive stations.

Other than that you haven't given us much to work with so cliffs are hand read better, understand opponents (HUD stats?) better
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06-13-2013 , 06:42 PM
I agree with FP and Dunna - simply playing laggish isn't always good enough - you have to give up on a right time to make playing laggish profitable for yourself.
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06-15-2013 , 08:31 AM
Hello guys, i coulnt find a good section to post this so lets go ahead and post it on the newbie thread:

The more dollars and euros are starting to spread apart in value the more i start thinking it could be a profitable thing to do to speculate the money in my pokerstars account between currency to avoid it losing its value.


Does anyone know where i can find a good for short term predictions on the dollar/euro scholarship (and maybe other common currency's)?

Gr. Daikie
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06-15-2013 , 09:09 AM
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Hi all
I know i have a few hands, but what leaks did you see?
Thank you all, and excuse me for my english
looks like a aggressive solid stat so far for me.

Of course i cant tell everything, on a smaller sample you can just be bluffing way to much and being lucky that you get away with it.
But i'm going to assume you somewhat know what you're doing. Just be aware that playing more aggressive can come with more variance and that tilt can really ruwen you game.
I'm not encourage you to right up, in fact the i like a bit more aggression then our average tag. I'm just saying that it can be harder to pull off.

Gr. Daikie
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06-15-2013 , 11:42 AM
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Hello guys, i coulnt find a good section to post this so lets go ahead and post it on the newbie thread:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/30...nce-investing/
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06-21-2013 , 04:54 AM
My most recent 20k hands from 5nl Zoom:




For some background: I've been playing Stars regular tables recreationally since last summer, winning comfortably at 2nl but breakeven-to-slightly-losing at 5nl. I switched to Zoom in April, which jumped me to "very slight 5nl winner". Over the last week I've had a lot of free time so I've been playing a lot more - and I added a second, then a third Zoom table to the one I had been playing before. Something seemed to click when I did that, and I've been winning fairly well since (I think a lot of that 'click' was simply that it becomes a lot easier to fold a good hand such as AA to post flop aggression when you can expect the hand to come around again in about 20 minutes...). These stats are from that period, and because I feel like my play has genuinely improved despite the small sample, and I'm now decently rolled for 10nl, I'm going to take a proper shot at it. Before I do, are there any obvious leaks here, or anything which I may need to change for the higher level? I suspect that as I move up, stealing from SB will become far less effective, and I'll probably need to smooth out the very steep transition in my play from UTG+MP-to-CO+BTN, but no doubt better players here can tell me more.
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07-01-2013 , 02:31 PM
Month of June (5nl):
Came back after a very long poker break (close to 8 months ish). Worked on my red line towards the end:


I feel that my hand ranged need to be worked on because I'm pretty much going off of feel. My CO def has to change imo and maybe tweak my mp.


Rest of my stats:
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07-02-2013 , 02:40 PM
That doesn't seem to make any sense. You have a positive bb/100 and a negative net won USD? Is that a mix of stakes?

You fold far too much btw, that's why your went to showdown is so low and you lose so much in non showdown winnings.
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07-03-2013 , 03:43 PM
My bad, the positive bb/100 is from june, the graph is all time
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07-05-2013 , 07:27 AM
Hi all, I'm a 16/9/2.22 player and below lie my embarrassing 2NL stats. I am getting the impression that I am calling far too many raises preflop. I'm careful about the hands I play, but often treat calling a 3-4BB raise the same as me having made such a raise...

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07-07-2013 , 10:24 AM
I've played almost 4k hands at 2NL and want to make sure I'm on the right track.
As you can see I'm losing currently -.-
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