12-04-2017
, 08:47 PM
Hi,
I was thinking about the outs you can have on flop and turn and thought it could be much different than i learnd it.
Say you have A
K on 493
flop, you would think you have 2 times 9 outs for making the nutflush (13-4=9 diamond cards). But is it realistic to think there are still 9 diamonds left in the deck since there are 8 players with 2 cards in hand? You can expect these 16 cards contain a few diamonds too (9/(52-5)*16=3.06). So a realistic expectation would be 2 times 6 outs instead of 9 in this view, which is a huge difference!
Reasonable, right? Or why not?
I was thinking about the outs you can have on flop and turn and thought it could be much different than i learnd it.
Say you have A
K on 493 flop, you would think you have 2 times 9 outs for making the nutflush (13-4=9 diamond cards). But is it realistic to think there are still 9 diamonds left in the deck since there are 8 players with 2 cards in hand? You can expect these 16 cards contain a few diamonds too (9/(52-5)*16=3.06). So a realistic expectation would be 2 times 6 outs instead of 9 in this view, which is a huge difference!Reasonable, right? Or why not?
12-04-2017
, 11:12 PM
Quote:
Hi,
I was thinking about the outs you can have on flop and turn and thought it could be much different than i learnd it.
Say you have AK on 493 flop, you would think you have 2 times 9 outs for making the nutflush (13-4=9 diamond cards). But is it realistic to think there are still 9 diamonds left in the deck since there are 8 players with 2 cards in hand? You can expect these 16 cards contain a few diamonds too (9/(52-5)*16=3.06). So a realistic expectation would be 2 times 6 outs instead of 9 in this view, which is a huge difference!
Reasonable, right? Or why not?
I was thinking about the outs you can have on flop and turn and thought it could be much different than i learnd it.
Say you have A
K on 493 flop, you would think you have 2 times 9 outs for making the nutflush (13-4=9 diamond cards). But is it realistic to think there are still 9 diamonds left in the deck since there are 8 players with 2 cards in hand? You can expect these 16 cards contain a few diamonds too (9/(52-5)*16=3.06). So a realistic expectation would be 2 times 6 outs instead of 9 in this view, which is a huge difference!Reasonable, right? Or why not?
And 9/47 = 6/31 (give or take due to rounding), so you will get the same answer.
See number 1 at the below link:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...stions-676280/
thanks anyway!