Okay so I sit down in a 1/2 livecashgame good first couple of hands, and then I get pocket Queens, I am currently in MP
Villain is directly to my right , so I have position on him
Everyone limps in until
Villain raises to 10$
I then proceed to CALL

Everyone folds so it's head up
Board runs 5s 8h JD
Villain checks
I raise to 25 thinking villain probably has A10 pair of 10s)

He takes a moment then calls

TURN comes in at Jh
This is where I should have folded
Villain raises 75$
I call
River is Ks

He goes all in has me covered I put the rest of my 100$chips in and he turns aces, I show queens......i loose buy-in in less than 10 minutes

Any help or suggestions would greatly be appreciated

post stacks
post reads
3b pre
understand the difference between a bet and a raise

I was at 200$ and villain had about 250,
I had q hurt feeling he was bluffing didn't want to get buffed out early on in the game
But he ended up having aces
Anyway am getting him to lol in the TURN if I go all in after raise to 75$

And I know the difference just a typo bud

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Why I just want a serious answer..

Understand that your going to bust a buyin many times within 10 mins of playing cash if you play cash long enough.

Do you think it was avoidable

I'm getting it in with QQ the way you played it and knowing what i know about villain.

if i had being playing with villain for a longer period of time i may have folded.

You now know villian could play AA in that fashion. Does villian play regularly?

poker is about the long term.

I would of 3bet preflop too and it would of changed how the hand played on the flop or even preflop.

If I 3bet to 30 am almost positive he is shoving all in could have saved me some money

If you aren't willing to go broke on your first hand you aren't playing right.


Rebuy. Move on.

if you 3bet pre and folded to a 4bet or shove preflop you would of saved some money.

So, with this assertion, it means there is information you have omitted. What was your lead on the turn? Because if he then raised to $75, it is abundantly clear you need to work on your bet sizing...

But as noted, it sounds as though you may be too risk-averse to play for actual cash. Hands like this happen. And when they do, you simply reload and move on. More than once, I have been at a brand new table and seen an AA v KK on the very first hand. It happens in this thing we call poker. Players learn to deal with it...

All of this plus don’t show results. Reads include age, race and gender and general demeanour because poker is not politically correct.

Also yeah losing your stack straight away happens.

There's a lot wrong with that hand. Why didn't you 3bet pre. With players left to act flatting is inexcusable. Villain's range ott is not A10, 10s. It's far wider than that. The K on the river hits villain's range hard and your losing to a lot of their bluffs now. You have to at least consider letting your hand go otr despite the price. Doubt your good here 25%

I don't play cash games I mostly play tournament however pre flop I personally would've re-raised to around $30. Then if he re-raised you it would look super strong. But if you raise $30 and he flat calls then you can still put him on strong hands.

He checks the flop and then calls your bet. However turn is a J. He could easily think you have J10/QJ as the $75 raise seems like he is abit scared of the turn card.

Then a K on the river which is an overcard. With a shove on the river you are beat by any J any K set of 8's set of 5's and ofcourse AA. Would he really shove similar stack as a bluff? If so what is he bluffing with? Missed flush? Missed straight? A8? A5? I think by the river it's a fold.. maybe not an easy fold but too much beats you compared to a bluff.

Unlucky like but I'd say this is a fold. There are always better spots in the game of poker

That’s a board runout where you can find a fold on the river unless you feel the need to bluff catch. It’s not like you beat a single value hand that’s consistent with the action.

Welcome to the forum ... please stick around and use this site as a 'friend' to learn more about how other players think.

Every poker hand has decision points. Each decision point has 'consequences' that may occur that you will become aware of the more you play and you will need how to react to those spots accordingly.

1) You say 'good first couple of hands' .. what does that mean? Did you win them? What hands did you have to show down (if you showed) and how did you play them? This is important because the table can only view you as a player in this short span of a 'couple' hands. They may play slightly different if they view you as a bully or just a player sitting down to a heater.

2) You have QQ, the 3rd best starting hand, and decide to flat a raise with quite a few players left to act. I'm not going to ask 'why' I'm going to say that if you are going to play this way then you have to understand that you are acting weak, thus you can't expect your opponents to think you're strong if this just 'quietly' goes to the Flop.

3) Flop is great for you .. and you should definitely bet here when the PFR checks it to you. The player pause-calls. What was he thinking about? This Board is pretty bland/dry so there really isn't much to think about ... or is there? I agree that you put him on a much too narrow of range here .. you don't even mention that he may have a Jx hand. You also have to consider what he thinks you have .. which at this point 'should' be Jx (or better, two over-cards and maybe a smaller pocket pair) since you just sat down.

4) The Board pairs ... he should be scared that you had Jx and yet he bets, why? You assume he's bluffing but don't tell us 'how' you called. Did you also pause-call? Typically, with these stacks, if you had Jx here you would be shoving and forcing him to call off or fold. But you flat, which is also fine with Jx since it's hopefully all getting in anyway. A flush draw came out, perhaps V has AKh? (You 'now' know that this V sees the Jack on the Board as being 'less' likely you have a Jack rather than being scared of it. Take this information forward to the next hands.)

5) An over-card comes and V shoves, what do you beat? Only a bluff. Why would V even consider that you would fold here after leading the Flop and calling a Donk bet on the Turn? True, there are some 1/2 players that will try to bluff here with 99/TT/ATh. But for the most part 1/2 players don't bluff as much as we think they do. They may over-value some hands on Flop and Turn, but this would be a 100% bluff ... or a hand that certainly beats yours, especially with the K coming out. There is a small consideration to V being so short stacked that he was calling 'any' bet anyway and he may get a few folds from you if he shoves.

6) As others have said, you need to realize that the cards don't care that it's your 3rd or 300th hand of the day. You need to look at how you played the hand, learn from it, and play 'better' next time. There are some hands that 'play themselves' .. this is not the case here (the way you played it). There were plenty of clues out there that 'may' have allowed you to fold this River, but there are plenty of players out there that are never folding in this spot and it's just a cooler for them ... and they just move on to the next hand without any future consideration.

7) It stinks to lose .. but losing less is winning. By posting the results you will get skewed comments, but I'd like to think that I would've really tanked on this River as described and found a fold in this spot, especially after a K hits the River and V shoves 'anyway'. By not raising PF or on the Turn, you've told V you're not 'super strong'. But V shoves into a paired Board with an 'over' hitting the River ... you probably should give them some credit until they prove otherwise.

8) But there's no fault in calling here either. You did under-play your hand PF and you are getting a decent price to call at $90 to win $310 so you only need to win 23% of the time to break even. GL