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12-18-2017 , 06:42 PM
This weekend at our home game I was in a hand that I know I made a bad fold on so that is not really the situation in question. The situation is should I have called or raised.

.5/1 stakes. Hero has roughly $450 and villain has roughly $150. It folds around to me in the cutoff. I make it $5 with AsKc, button calls "good aggressive player", small blind makes it $20 "tight good player and not super aggressive". BB folds, I call, dealer folds.

Flop comes 378 all spades. Villain bets $50, I thought for a minute or two without doing the math and folded. I put this player on JJ QQ. I realized after the hand that I am on top in that situation. We ran it out and a spade came on the turn. I showed my hand and villain said that had I called and the spade hit, he would have shut down.

So, my question is, with the effective stack sizes and had I correctly realized my odds, would I have been better to re-raise all in there?
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12-18-2017 , 07:34 PM
Villain's range in this spot is not QQ/JJ. It's significantly wider. You are good sometimes with AK in this spot but that doesn't mean you should shove. With the nfd I'm calling the flop bet.
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12-18-2017 , 09:25 PM
Can you confirm that you called the 3-bet with AK with the ace of spades, and then you folded on an all spade flop, and then showed your hand?

Don't do either of the last two things. The nut flush draw and two overs is a very good hand in that spot. Villain is betting $50 into $47 I think, which means you only need about 32% equity to break even. Even if villains range is AA-QQ (inc. some combos containing a spade), you've got 45% equity. Calling or shoving are both viable plays, given the stack depth.
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12-18-2017 , 10:50 PM
Also, I suggest that you don't rabbit hunt. Whether or not a spade would have come is irrelevant to your decision - so seeing that you would have won doesn't help you at all. At our game, you need to add $1 to the next pot if you choose to rabbit hunt. Every now and then someone does, but just this small amount has made it so people usually just move on to the next hand. Before we instituted it, people would always look, and then get upset when they saw what they missed.
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12-19-2017 , 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
Can you confirm that you called the 3-bet with AK with the ace of spades, and then you folded on an all spade flop, and then showed your hand?

Don't do either of the last two things. The nut flush draw and two overs is a very good hand in that spot. Villain is betting $50 into $47 I think, which means you only need about 32% equity to break even. Even if villains range is AA-QQ (inc. some combos containing a spade), you've got 45% equity. Calling or shoving are both viable plays, given the stack depth.
What?
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12-19-2017 , 01:11 AM
with a 3s7s8s flop

http://www.pokerstrategy.com
Board: 8s7s3s
Equity Win Tie
CO 54.79% 40.89% 13.90% { AsKc }
BU 45.21% 31.31% 13.90% { QQ+, AKs, AKo }


http://www.pokerstrategy.com
Board: 8s7s3s
Equity Win Tie
CO 45.20% 45.20% 0.00% { AsKc }
BU 54.80% 54.80% 0.00% { QQ+ }
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12-19-2017 , 05:54 AM
if villian is even remotly competent (ie, not a complete nit), 4bet/call pre ainec
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12-19-2017 , 09:32 AM
Unless he got really bored and creative, there is NO WAY this player 3-bets to $20 after I raise and the player behind me calls with less than TT, maybe against some of the other guys. Like I said, I definitely realized my fold was incorrect. I was mainly curious if the shove would have been better than calling. He and I spoke last night and he told me he had kings with no spade.
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12-19-2017 , 09:36 AM
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Unless he got really bored and creative, there is NO WAY this player 3-bets to $20 after I raise and the player behind me calls with less than TT, maybe against some of the other guys.
this means he is a terrible nit, if he is anywhere near balanced he will always have 3bet bluff and 5bet bluff combos, and will have wider value 3bet range than TT+ (lol)
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