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Originally Posted by VBAces
Whenever I think I have a winner at showdown, I show it, rather than taking a lot of time worrying about who goes first.
I agree with this, and certainly, I do tend to show in those spots. I'm talking about more borderline spots, spots where you 'check back with value', so to speak. In most games, you'd then see what they called with, and if it wins, muck, if your value is good enough, show.
(as for the first couple of sentences I haven't quoted, thanks for your thoughts
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Originally Posted by VBAces
If there is a bet and call on the river, the bettor generally would show first (at least by rule). So I don't see why that should change just because there is no bet on the river.
Fair enough
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Originally Posted by VBAces
As for which is correct. That is easy. They are both correct. That is the nature of rules. They aren't correct or incorrect, they simply are rules.
That's a very black and white view, which is fine. I tend to think if one way is the rule 99% of the time, then the 1% is therefore incorrect. It IS a house rule and I accept that when I play there.
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Originally Posted by sixfour
It makes no difference to strategy. Just show your hand
I mean, a part of strategy involves giving away as little information as possible. Where required to show my hand, I do (promptly) and have no qualms with that. At venues with this rule, positional play results in showing far MORE hands than I usually would. I was simply wondering if anyone would consider playing out of position more, or not bothering betting draws in position, or betting river regardless, etc etc.
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Originally Posted by aner0
Why are you scared to show a bluff
Same as answer above to sixfour, and add that I'm definitely not! haha it's also not really a question about bluffing - For an example scenario - say you're button, you have 9dTd on a 2d7d8s, Ks, Th board, you bet flop and turn and get called. On the river, you hit the T, opponent checks - I would typically (in a tournament) check back with the little bit of value, as I've missed my main draws and the T 'might' be good enough against Ax, 56, 89, etc. In most places you play, online included, they'd show first. In Melbourne, I have to show my 9dTd first, and assuming it IS good enough, I never learn what they called me with on earlier streets, meaning I'm missing that information I'd learn in a 'normal' game. If that makes sense.
Poker is a game of incomplete information, we can all agree on that, so gathering as much information as possible and not giving away as much information as possible is good, surely.