... do you have mad wide aggro players live too? Like I'm not going to go on a bad beat story or anything but compared to online these live players are sooo wide.. like calling 3x bb oop with J2 suited and raising 6x bb with like 57 suited and sometimes off?

I played a live tourney last night for the first time in weeks (been playing more online instead) and I got to FT but didn't cash due to this and just in general blinds flying up etc etc.

But is it just me or is live a lot more wide and crazy? Lol would love to hear some live tourney stories of really weird crazy play that paid off somehow. xD

Played a live tournament 2 weeks ago and one guy came to the table and was immediately all-in pre the first 5 hands (with total garbage except the fifth one where he actually had QQ)...Of course it worked for him (*sigh*)...until it didn't. 20 minutes later he busted.

There are lots of people who come to the casino for entertainment purposes. They want to have fun, not sit around and fold 90% of their hands. If they wanted to spend an evening on their phone like most regs do, they would have stayed home on their couch.

If you go to a bowling alley or a pub to play darts, you don’t want to wait 15 minutes for your next turn. Lots of players feel the same way about poker, especially if stakes are relatively meaningless to them.

So are you suggesting that live play changed during your 'weeks' off?

I would certainly agree that J2/57 really shouldn't be seen at a tournament FT unless the structure really pressed the players. Yes, some really just don't care and want to 'make a move'.

To answer your question ... NO, it's not just 'your' local casino ... GL

When discussions about live come about, stakes matter. After all, at small stakes cash games, the money really isn't an issue for some people. For five or ten bucks, they will see a flop with any two cards. If a table is perceived as weak, then some will try to steal with some minimal holding (where 57ss would sit).

Too many people forget that live poker, cash OR tournament is as much about playing the person as it is the cards.

And there are also times where 'aggro' is improperly applied to a player that simply does not really understand the math behind some of their actions.

i had a lady call me with 36o when i had AKs preflop after someone utg raised and she called and i re-raised shoved then utg folds and she calls.

i had 25BB and she had 30BB.

since i lost i should call gamblers anonymous.

5 times all in pre on the bounce wow.. I've seen 3 times all in pre 2 blind and 1 with AJ, he won every flip

I'm actually talking about regs who come more than twice a week who do this. Sure they may be fun regs like I suppose

Wow I'd be really frustrated by this.. however no one can be mad at old ladies lol

Well, it wasn't 5 times win, but (IIRC) win, win, win, loss, win....and then he played a few hands normally until he lost a big pot overplaying middle pair then loss, loss, bust.
(Short amount of fun for a 100EUR buy-in)

This sort of thing I find vexing because one person like that can easily take you down with them even though you feel you played well all the time up to that point. (Even more vexing because I didn't find a single playable hand in all that time). Totally unnecessary increase in variance.

Can't get tournies for 5 or 10 dollas where I am.. minimum is around 30/35. But you can tell the fun players from the ones who are there to win and cash.

Are we talking about $500+ buy-in tournaments where people actually play to make a living or some low stakes fast structure donkaments? If it’s the latter, everybody is (supposed to be) a recreational player.

Maybe low stakes to some people but not fast (average local tourney lasts around 7 hours with a 40/50 field)

Yes some people play poker extremely badly. More so live than online.

This is a good thing.

You get frustrated by others playing badly?

When folks play badly and win (which sometimes happens) many beginners ( who lose to them ) find this very discouraging. The more experienced you get , the more this becomes a minor annoyance only. Bad players ,who never win , will eventually not come back to donate!

In your original post, it was not clear to me that you were asking solely about tournaments, but now that you have eliminated cash games from the discussion, you are asking about small-dollar buy-ins so the premise remains the same. Losing less than fifty bucks in trying to make a stack-building move is simply not a big deal to a lot of people. I mean...really...you are talking about an amount that does not even fill the tank on the car or cover a decent dinner somewhere.

That being said, you will see some of the same sort of action even in higher dollar events. I remember my first $1,500.00 event at the WSOP (8 game mix) where I six-bet shove my aces and got called by 10-9 off-suit. Yes, he had three-bet and then five-bet with 10-9o. But again, for some people, it just isn't that much money at stake when you can go and re-buy.

Yeah it is true some people just aren't bothered if they lose their buy in or whatever it all depends on the person I suppose.. but 10 9 off suit in a 1500 buy in.. wow.. haha I hope your aces held?

Sadly no. Karma was that he did not last more than another level or two. But that was my first real introduction to the fact that stupid people have money to burn at poker as well...

Even worse than that was a shove in a tournament over the weekend in a $400 event where player shoves pre-flop with what turned out to be 7-4dd. They got called and got knocked out (this was after the re-buy period had ended).

I hate when they call you and say stupid stuff like this is the perfect hand to crack your Aces and call the shove just to hit and crack them.