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Old 06-10-2012, 05:21 PM   #101
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Re: June Beginners Bankroll Thread

Decided to play a few more hands (read: 300 or so) tonight. Not playing any more cash because I think that trying this against 2NL villains is a sign of tilt:

PartyGaming - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: $1.94
Hero (BTN): $2.62
SB: $1.75
BB: $0.70
UTG: $2.01
UTG+1: $2.04
MP: $2.30
MP+1: $3.65

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has A T

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 calls $0.02, fold, Hero raises to $0.08, SB calls $0.07, fold, MP+1 calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.26, 3 players) 6 T K
SB checks, MP+1 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.26, 3 players) 9
SB bets $0.12, fold, Hero calls $0.12

River: ($0.50, 2 players) 2
SB bets $0.24, Hero raises to $0.90, SB calls $0.66

Hero shows A T (One Pair, Tens) (Pre 45%, Flop 90%, Turn 0%)
SB shows 9 9 (Three of a Kind, Nines) (Pre 55%, Flop 10%, Turn 100%)
SB wins $2.19
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Old 06-10-2012, 06:48 PM   #102
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Cbet flop?
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Old 06-10-2012, 07:04 PM   #103
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I was actually hoping to induce a spazz from MP+1, but it clearly didn't work out as planned. I was the spazzer in the end.
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Old 06-11-2012, 01:20 AM   #104
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back up to 80, going to give NL5 a go and move back down when i hit $70 (currently back up to $80) was planning on moving up at $100 but will give it a shot
I don't think you will have any problems with 5nl if your crushing 2nl.. obv you can still lose if you play well and get your money in good . so gl
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Old 06-11-2012, 01:11 PM   #105
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I don't think you will have any problems with 5nl if your crushing 2nl.. obv you can still lose if you play well and get your money in good . so gl
So i gave NL5 a go, not too bad. Was only running two tables though so quite slow going as i was aware of my bank roll. but not so concerned that i was playing with scared money. Session(s) on Nl5 graph below. Made one stupid play which lost me a bit but managed to stack two which helped end the session on a positive




might start a blog on the challenges thread actually, to track my progress through the levels (if i end up moving up any more at all)
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Old 06-11-2012, 01:17 PM   #106
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keep grinding intense volume at micro. i made myself a 2012 challenge to turn $5 into $100 and up from there. im currently at $485. hopfully get around $550+ by the end of the month. played 100k hands at mostly 2nl and 5nl during may and made silver.
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Old 06-11-2012, 02:26 PM   #107
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the fold made me lol

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $5.00
SB: $2.85
BB: $7.92
UTG: $5.35
UTG+1: $14.15
MP: $12.50
Hero (MP+1): $5.00
LP: $6.84
CO: $9.30

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has 4 4

fold, fold, MP raises to $0.20, Hero calls $0.20, fold, fold, fold, SB calls $0.18, BB calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.80, 4 players) T 6 T
SB checks, BB checks, MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.80, 4 players) 6
SB checks, BB checks, MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($0.80, 4 players) T
SB checks, BB checks, MP bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20, SB calls $0.20, fold

MP shows K A (Full House, Tens full of Sixes) (Pre 33%, Flop 30%, Turn 48%)
Hero shows 4 4 (Full House, Tens full of Sixes) (Pre 42%, Flop 52%, Turn 8%)
SB shows J A (Full House, Tens full of Sixes) (Pre 25%, Flop 18%, Turn 44%)
SB wins $0.45
MP wins $0.45
Hero wins $0.44


player who folded had stats of: over 81 hands 91/40 lols


and also, should i betting flop here or is check ok?




EDIT: a couple hands later, same guy, lolcakes

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: $5.00
UTG: $2.18
UTG+1: $8.15
Hero (MP): $9.19
MP+1: $2.75
CO: $9.42
BTN: $7.74
SB: $7.40

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has 3 9

fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.15, fold, MP+1 raises to $0.25, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.57, 2 players) 5 6 A
UTG+1 checks, MP+1 bets $0.35, UTG+1 raises to $1.28, MP+1 calls $0.93

Turn: ($3.13, 2 players) K
UTG+1 checks, MP+1 checks

River: ($3.13, 2 players) T
UTG+1 bets $5.00, MP+1 calls $1.22 and is all-in

UTG+1 shows A K (Two Pair, Aces and Kings) (Pre 75%, Flop 85%, Turn 100%)
MP+1 shows 8 A (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 25%, Flop 15%, Turn 0%)
UTG+1 wins $5.34

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Old 06-11-2012, 05:05 PM   #108
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First hand: I'm not sure why you would bet the flop. Sure, it's a paired board but it is suited and very marginally connected so any bet would be unlikely to get through four players who are probably all calling with any FD, gutshot or 6. You could be betting for value but it's very very thin.
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Old 06-11-2012, 07:59 PM   #109
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definitely swinging like a ***** here in NL5 lol, just can't seem to play my game. bit tilty as well for some stupid reason. From $5 up to -6 to +6 to -3 lol
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:24 PM   #110
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definitely swinging like a ***** here in NL5 lol, just can't seem to play my game. bit tilty as well for some stupid reason. From $5 up to -6 to +6 to -3 lol
At the beggining of April I was playing 5nl with 40 buy ins.. after scrweing around live( Live 1/2 players suck) and winning some money( and spending alot of it on stupid stuff lol) I decided to follow proper BR management.

In a couple weeks I had moved up to 10 nl because I had 30+ buy ins for that level, and I finished the month winning about 500+ dollars( 500 on Stars and 70+ on Ongame network) in about 50 k+ hand. Then last month I lost 100 at 10nl/16nl in about 21 k hands. Fortunately, I won a bunch of money playing various SNGs( 45 mans, HU etc) with T$ from 235 fpp storm sats. Also won some money playing my favoirte game stud hi( which no ones plays).. BUT I sent various people money online and that totalled 100+ bucks and withdrew THE REST of the money I had won for presonal expenses...


Anyways, I wasm't winning as much as I had been/ thought I should be around that time playing NLHE( Whiich I considered "my game")and my confidence was shot.

At the begiining of this month, I went back to 5nl with 40 buy ins... and said screw NLHE, the PLO5 games look so much more juciier,....and they are!!! In my last 1 k hands I'm up 13+ buy ins. I'm almost rolled for 10 nl/ PLO10( I guess) with 30+ buy after two weeks of playing PLO5 this month on Starz. When I get my next VIP stellar reward($50.. and I'm so close!!) and if I can take advantage of the 235 ffp storm then I can easily get my BR up to the 400 mark sometime next week. Obv not spewing a bunch of buy ins will help too, as well as getting my money in good and holding.
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:28 AM   #111
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keep grinding intense volume at micro. i made myself a 2012 challenge to turn $5 into $100 and up from there. im currently at $485. hopfully get around $550+ by the end of the month. played 100k hands at mostly 2nl and 5nl during may and made silver.
What format are you playing? regular full ring 2NL?
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Old 06-12-2012, 05:50 AM   #112
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Only managed to play about 2k hands at 5nl so far, but I'm up just under 2 buyings.

Old BR: $62
New BR: $71.38

Current plan is to keep grinding my roll up, I still have $50 I can deposit but I think I'm going to see if I can grind it up without using that.
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:43 AM   #113
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What format are you playing? regular full ring 2NL?
I played 24 FR regular speed tables for may and a bit of zoom FR. I started playing 4 tables of 6-max zoom in june and find the action there is awesome (mostly at 2NL as i was trying it out but got a good grasp now so i'll prob play some 5NL soon). In 6 max zoom there aren't all these guys waiting only for QQ+ as you just get blinded if you do that. I also played some $1.50 SnG's when my BR got up to around $50.
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:00 AM   #114
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Hey guys im here looking for some advice, i have a 150$ bankroll to start with and would like hear on some ways in which i could use it. I would like to know what stakes i should start at and how many tables i should start with, i play more live poker and just starting online an online bankroll so its all a a bit different to me atm. thanks for any advice much appreciated. !
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:34 AM   #115
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Just played another quick one hour session and it went rather well, got unlucky early and lost a race QQ vs AK. But made it back and more with my favourite hand of the session

    Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    BB: $6.09 (121.8 bb)
    UTG: $8.20 (164 bb)
    MP: $6.07 (121.4 bb)
    CO: $8.53 (170.6 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $6.56 (131.2 bb)
    SB: $5 (100 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7 7
    UTG folds, MP raises to $0.15, CO folds, Hero calls $0.15, SB folds, BB calls $0.10

    Flop: ($0.47) 2 6 7 (3 players)
    BB checks, MP bets $0.35, Hero raises to $1.05, BB calls $1.05, MP raises to $4, Hero raises to $6.41, BB calls $4.89 and is all-in, MP calls $1.92 and is all-in

    Turn: ($18.27) 2 (3 players, 2 are all-in)
    River: ($18.27) K (3 players, 2 are all-in)

    Spoiler:


    Old BR: $71.38
    New BR: $76.92
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    Old 06-12-2012, 02:10 PM   #116
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    Back into a downswing methinks. Win a bit at SNG hypers (GOD they are soft), and decide to pop into a cash game. First twenty hands... KK<AA, then an 80/70/3bet40 shoved over my AK open (this is standard for their 3bets)... would be the one time they had KK. Then, AA<75o AIPF, my 3bet with JJ vs an aggrofish faced a 4bet and a 5bet behind, and set over set. FIRST TWENTY HANDS. Made back 40bb over the next 100 hands then felt myself tilting so I quit for the day. 370bb down without playing badly after 100 hands. Sick.
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    Old 06-12-2012, 03:46 PM   #117
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    SB was 3betting 45% (9/20) and BB had quite fishy stats. Wouldn't normally call 3bets with this hand but against those guys it seemed a good idea. With less than a pot sized bet left on the flop I decided to get it in as I'm ahead even against two overpairs (as long as they don't block my fd).

    PokerStars - $0.25 NL ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

    BTN: $12.50
    SB: $37.87
    BB: $32.28
    UTG: $19.53
    UTG+1: $4.98
    MP: $44.02
    MP+1: $30.90
    Hero (LP): $32.15
    CO: $11.65

    SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

    Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has J T

    UTG calls $0.25, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.75, fold, fold, SB raises to $2.75, BB calls $2.50, fold, Hero calls $2.00

    Flop: ($8.50, 3 players) 3 J 9
    SB bets $6.09, BB calls $6.09, Hero raises to $29.40 and is all-in, SB raises to $35.12 and is all-in, BB calls $23.44 and is all-in

    Turn: ($96.96, 3 players) K

    River: ($96.96, 3 players) J

    Spoiler:


    Was this a spewy shove?
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    Old 06-12-2012, 03:59 PM   #118
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    ^Given the board I don't think so.
    The worst hand (on the flop) won, you were marginally 2nd best.
    Although, I probably wouldn't shove, but that's me.
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    Old 06-12-2012, 04:04 PM   #119
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    With the loose 3better and the fact its a 3way 3bet pot I think it's ok to call with JTs though I think it's marginal, and I'd rather call with hands like AT, or KJ, or lower connectors like 68s because I think they play better post and it's easier to decide to commit when they make a top pair hand.

    Where as with JT you will get a lot of flops like AJ5r or something where SB will cbet and you are deciding how much to commit with a weak 2nd pair hand. In this situation if you had AT I'd happily call/raise his bet depending on what I think gets more value, and I'd easily fold 86s or 75s because so much of his range now beats us. But if you have JTs you are in a much more difficult position

    On the flop I think the raise is fine, don't want to call and lose equity if the turn blanks, and can't fold because you have so much equity.


    Board: Jc 3h 9h
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 30.940% 29.82% 01.12% 339778 12807.00 { JJ+, 99, 33, AhKh, AJs, J9s, AJo, J9o }
    Hand 1: 30.940% 29.82% 01.12% 339778 12807.00 { JJ+, 99, 33, AhKh, AJs, J9s, AJo, J9o }
    Hand 2: 38.121% 38.00% 00.12% 433018 1398.00 { JhTh }

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    Old 06-12-2012, 04:55 PM   #120
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    bad start to nl5 lol

    try spot where i started lol

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    Old 06-12-2012, 05:51 PM   #121
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    Was this a spewy shove?
    I don't think that its terrible, but I'd probably flat.
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    Old 06-12-2012, 11:39 PM   #122
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    Hey guys im here looking for some advice, i have a 150$ bankroll to start with and would like hear on some ways in which i could use it. I would like to know what stakes i should start at and how many tables i should start with, i play more live poker and just starting online an online bankroll so its all a a bit different to me atm. thanks for any advice much appreciated. !
    If you like to play cash games start at 5NL ($150=30BI). I personally like playing zoom and you can get away profitably without a HUD fairly easily at micro. You can try out both 9 handed and 6 max, see which ever one you like best, but i find FH is nitty as hell. You can start that with 2 tables and move up to 4 easily once you get used to it. if you prefer SnG's i req you have at least 30 buy-ins or more if you don't feel like you currently have that big of an edge. you can play 4 of these min at a time no problem. glgl
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    Old 06-13-2012, 12:22 AM   #123
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    There was a guy who had a name [QT]showcards - call me off with QTs with ~18bbs in a hyper turbo.

    Must be a leak
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    Old 06-13-2012, 02:12 AM   #124
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    Hey guys im here looking for some advice, i have a 150$ bankroll to start with and would like hear on some ways in which i could use it. I would like to know what stakes i should start at and how many tables i should start with, i play more live poker and just starting online an online bankroll so its all a a bit different to me atm. thanks for any advice much appreciated. !
    Do you have pocket tracker? If not, I'd use half of my roll to buy the micros versian and grind two tables of 2n until you think you can beat it. The sample size should probably be 10 k + hands
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    Old 06-13-2012, 02:55 AM   #125
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    Do you have pocket tracker? If not, I'd use half of my roll to buy the micros versian and grind two tables of 2n until you think you can beat it. The sample size should probably be 10 k + hands
    How do you know you can beat it?
    Results orientated thinking aside.
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