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Old 06-29-2012, 05:33 PM   #276
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Re: June Beginners Bankroll Thread

I'd probably crying call hand 1, I ain't giving no one credit at 2NL.
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Old 06-29-2012, 05:40 PM   #277
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Opinions on these hands?
Hand 1 im never folding, you would be surprised at the crap he can show up with here.

Hand 2 im not happy with it but probably sigh/calling turn and never folding river for .10.
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Old 06-29-2012, 06:35 PM   #278
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That's eight consecutive losing sessions. Short (200-500 hand) sessions, but it still hurts. Would anyone mind having a look over one to see if I'm doing anything horrifically wrong? I felt I played pretty well this session, and didn't lose much (30bb). Just one hand I'd like to ask a simple question about - two villains are aggrofish (70/60 sorts), this is standard right? I figured that the BB was folding most of the hands I was flipping with as my image at the table was quite tight:

PartyGaming - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $0.53
Hero (SB): $2.19
BB: $2.38
UTG: $2.18
UTG+1: $2.03
MP: $1.75
MP+1: $1.41
CO: $2.23

Hero posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02, MP+1 posts BB $0.02, MP+1 posts DB $0.01

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has A Q

UTG raises to $0.08, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to $0.56, fold, fold, Hero raises to $2.19 and is all-in, fold, UTG calls $2.10 and is all-in, MP+1 calls $0.84 and is all-in

Flop: ($5.79, 3 players) 8 7 4

Turn: ($5.79, 3 players) 8

River: ($5.79, 3 players) 4

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And what do you all think of this hand? Villain is 35/3 over 40 hands. Right not to cbet?

PartyGaming - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (CO): $2.00
BTN: $2.30
SB: $2.00
BB: $2.63
UTG: $1.92
UTG+1: $0.95
UTG+2: $2.00
MP: $0.44
MP+1: $2.18

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has 6 6

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.06, BTN calls $0.06, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.15, 2 players) 4 Q K
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($0.15, 2 players) A
Hero bets $0.11, BTN calls $0.11

River: ($0.37, 2 players) 5
Hero bets $0.12, BTN calls $0.12

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Old 06-29-2012, 06:44 PM   #279
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I'd probably not call turn on hand 2, he's passive and obviously has some piece of that board so you're almost certainly beat. You'll probably need to hit the flush on the river to have a chance and there's still the chance you'll have a lower flush like what did happen.
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Old 06-29-2012, 06:52 PM   #280
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I'd probably not call turn on hand 2, he's passive and obviously has some piece of that board so you're almost certainly beat. You'll probably need to hit the flush on the river to have a chance and there's still the chance you'll have a lower flush like what did happen.
I'm the aggressor OTT.
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Old 06-29-2012, 07:09 PM   #281
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Hand 1 is pretty standard

Hand 2 i'd rather probably just shut down once he calls pre, i dont think we get a fold from him on that board.
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Old 06-29-2012, 07:18 PM   #282
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Oh, it's been a long day! Yeah I agree with nismo, against fish on those types of boards I'm just giving up.
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Am I value-cutting myself in betting the river?
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Old 06-29-2012, 11:03 PM   #284
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Will there a july thread and a link posted on this thread to it?
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Old 06-29-2012, 11:36 PM   #285
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Am I value-cutting myself in betting the river?
Nah once you get to river you should be value betting it, he'll definitely call with worse.
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Old 06-30-2012, 12:23 AM   #286
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Time for some GIF enhanced coolers.

Backshove was planned vs this aggro fish

    Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13375692

    MP2: $10 (40 bb)
    MP3: $8.13 (32.5 bb)
    CO: $14.22 (56.9 bb)
    BTN: $25.44 (101.8 bb)
    SB: $11.90 (47.6 bb)
    BB: $20 (80 bb)
    UTG+2: $13.82 (55.3 bb)
    Hero (MP1): $25 (100 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K A
    UTG+2 raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, MP2 folds, MP3 raises to $2.75,



    4 folds, UTG+2 calls $2, Hero raises to $25 and is all-in, MP3 calls $5.38, UTG+2 folds

    Hero showed K A
    MP3 showed J T



    Flop: ($19.36) 2 6 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)



    Turn: ($19.36) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)



    River: ($19.36) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)




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      Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13375702

      Hero (BB): $25 (100 bb)
      MP1: $30.54 (122.2 bb)
      MP2: $25 (100 bb)
      MP3: $34.33 (137.3 bb)
      CO: $10 (40 bb)
      BTN: $9.65 (38.6 bb)
      SB: $10 (40 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with A A



      3 folds, CO checks, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.25, CO raises to $9.75, Hero calls $8.75]

      CO showed 6 6
      Hero showed A A



      Flop: ($19.60) J 5 9 (2 players)



      Turn: ($19.60) 7 (2 players)
      River: ($19.60) 8 (2 players)






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      Old 06-30-2012, 12:33 AM   #287
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      made about $30 over 8-10k hands in the past couple days at 2nl 6-max got BR around $510 now. Il probably have to hit some more 5nl/10nl to keep silver this month, still need around 80 VPPs i think
      I actually think its a good idea to be nitty sometimes with your bankroll. Like if you fell like your "running bad" or not playing your A game. Also, maybe you just are learning poker in general or how to play at a new stake( i.e. making that jump from 10nl to 25 nl) and the actual dollar difference is bothering you. For me, I have about 100 k hands at 10nl but I still feel gross when I drop 10 buy ins str8( THATS 100 DOLLARS!!! THAT'S ALOT OF MONEY!!!) .

      Still, I'm a standard 40 BI type of guy when it comes to NLHE online.. but I think everyone should play with a BR that they fell comfortable playing with. I know alot of guys playing high stakes/ nosebleed stakes were loose with their bankrolls when they were first starting their "careers" and somehow got lucky... but I'm not comfortable going that route( Maybe because I'm not 21 yrs old anymore lol)

      When taking shots, I think I'm going to go with a 40 BI for current stakes + 4 BI for the next limit online.

      I can't wait for the July thread to post my goals
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      Old 06-30-2012, 03:21 AM   #288
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      Re: June Beginners Bankroll Thread

      TDA:
      Hand 1 worked out well for you. I wouldn't flip with AQo but as you can see people do with worse!
      Hand 2 is a bad board for our hand. I'd probably play it the same way. Wouldn't bother betting the river unless it completed our flush which it did, but we have a very poor flush, so may just check it.
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      Old 06-30-2012, 12:40 PM   #289
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      Always nice to end the month with the first winning session out of 10. Only three quarters of a buyin, but hey. Just one hand I was wondering about. Vil is 11/5 (but probably positionally unaware based on ATS), haven't seen him get out of line before, and normally seems to size bets normally:

      PartyGaming - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 8 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      MP+1: $1.92
      CO: $3.22
      BTN: $0.77
      SB: $0.85
      Hero (BB): $3.07
      UTG: $2.66
      UTG+1: $2.04
      MP: $2.07

      SB posts SB $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has J J

      fold, fold, MP raises to $0.10, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.08

      Flop: ($0.21, 2 players) 3 7 2
      Hero checks, MP bets $0.28, Hero calls $0.28

      Turn: ($0.77, 2 players) Q
      Hero checks, MP bets $1.06, fold
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      Old 06-30-2012, 02:44 PM   #290
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      I'd probably take the exact same line as you, I'm never calling down here with those stats and no reads.
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      Old 06-30-2012, 06:52 PM   #291
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      PLayed a boat load tryna keep my silver. lost a bit but not much. now just need 6.30 more VPP.

      @raikkonen you managed to make gold?
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      Old 06-30-2012, 07:12 PM   #292
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      Yeah I made it, was really happy with my BR at ~$700 then I go back on and got slapped in the face with a barrage of coolers and I'm back down to ~$500. If I fall down anymore it's back to NL10 for me, I can't even believe I let it happen again; I get a heater and just suffer a equally big downswing. FML!

      Could really do with drowning my sorrows right now, thankfully I have T in the Park on Thursday so that will keep my mind off Poker for a bit. **** Poker.
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      Old 07-01-2012, 10:36 AM   #293
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      Yeah I made it, was really happy with my BR at ~$700 then I go back on and got slapped in the face with a barrage of coolers and I'm back down to ~$500. If I fall down anymore it's back to NL10 for me, I can't even believe I let it happen again; I get a heater and just suffer a equally big downswing. FML!

      Could really do with drowning my sorrows right now, thankfully I have T in the Park on Thursday so that will keep my mind off Poker for a bit. **** Poker.
      gl man dropping down to 10nl might not a bad idea especially if your steaming a bit. hope you come back strong and rebuild that br.
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      Old 07-01-2012, 10:39 AM   #294
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      Re: June Beginners Bankroll Thread

      Will there be a July thread?
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      Old 07-01-2012, 10:54 AM   #295
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      Re: June Beginners Bankroll Thread

      July thread:

      https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/32...hread-1217071/
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