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06-08-2012 , 05:43 PM
So, thought I'd go back to my roll on 888 after playing Zoom for past few months.

Played 20nl, the standard is apalling! Compared to Zoom, players are better at 5nl than 20nl there. Still, lost 2.5BIs. Just random stuff really that you cant predict/read, like calling to river with 3rdP and hitting 2P (73o fml!) to your TPTK. Just so funny if you can get thru the tears!
06-08-2012 , 08:29 PM
June 1st BR $30
June 9th BR $74 - highest $80

playing NL2

hopefully move to NL5 by 20th
06-09-2012 , 01:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dunna100
So, thought I'd go back to my roll on 888 after playing Zoom for past few months.

Played 20nl, the standard is apalling! Compared to Zoom, players are better at 5nl than 20nl there. Still, lost 2.5BIs. Just random stuff really that you cant predict/read, like calling to river with 3rdP and hitting 2P (73o fml!) to your TPTK. Just so funny if you can get thru the tears!
888 is so fishy its incredible. Its just a shame the traffic isn't the best
06-09-2012 , 02:06 AM
10nl zoom is awesome ... just thought I'd share!

Oh by the way, back after a long time ... hi ya everyone!
06-09-2012 , 03:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by I Liek Mudkipz
June 1st BR $30
June 9th BR $74 - highest $80

playing NL2

hopefully move to NL5 by 20th
Its been do long since I've been crushing 2nl/5nl/10nl( 1 months and some change) that I'e forgotten how good it feels. I think I'm going to have to live vicariously through you
06-09-2012 , 03:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dunna100
So, thought I'd go back to my roll on 888 after playing Zoom for past few months.

Played 20nl, the standard is apalling! Compared to Zoom, players are better at 5nl than 20nl there. Still, lost 2.5BIs. Just random stuff really that you cant predict/read, like calling to river with 3rdP and hitting 2P (73o fml!) to your TPTK. Just so funny if you can get thru the tears!
Enjoy the swings.
888 is crazy like that.
06-09-2012 , 03:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Studebaker Hawk
Enjoy the swings.
888 is crazy like that.
You're not wrong mate. Kept winning stacks then the fish just kept chipping away at my stack with river binks and random 2P hands that you just cant predict. You really do have to keep track of which type of fish they are or you end up making some bad calls. Was difficult to get back into the mindset of a river raise doesn't always mean they have the nuts, and then work out when to call/raise and when not to. Bit rusty on that front.

Was pretty gutted when I made the immortal nuts several times when 200bb's deep and got it all in otr for villain to show me same hand. On another day.....

Think I finished just under 2BIs down, but was actually pretty enjoyable going back to normal speed. If only the villains were as easy to read as on Zoom!
06-09-2012 , 05:20 AM
Terrible in terms of volume, but can't complain

06-09-2012 , 07:28 AM
Started mixing in some turbos, mainly against 2 players. Something like 1-6 vs a guy at 18s and 8-2 vs a guy at 25s. Regular warriors gonna regular war. All the players at 15 hypers still suck (including myself). 30s regs seem a lot better, but I'm gonna be playing 15s for a while yet so we'll see when we get there.

In the black though heyhey! Lolvariance.



Also enprinte you never gave me your skype. It's problem.
06-09-2012 , 07:40 AM
0 hands so far, waiting on my motorcycle to sell to give me a roll. Plan on playing alot of 1/2 live at that time.
06-09-2012 , 09:03 AM
First session since about tuesday. Started off ok winning a smallish pot at PLO10. I was only playing 10 & 4. Then I spewed a little getting it in a 40/60 spot which was probably avoidable. Spewed a little more on another table with top / bottom pair on A57cc flop. Feeling frustrated with the few tables running I moved up to PLO20 and decided to not bother playing short stacks at PLO4/10. I ran ok, seemed to win though. The pattern has been to lose at smaller stakes and run good / play better at PLO20. Not sure if it's the money meaning i'm a bit more focused or just sample size. Still too short to be playing the 20 game properly but managed to get a win on the session (albeit not a big one.) Might grind later on at the smaller games and donk it back

I had just won a smallish pot on this table. Thought villain was a bit of a donk and a bit tilted with losing the pot. Decided to stack off on the flop with a lot of equity and bricked



A successful hero call at PLO20. I did tank on this, didn't think much value in betting river. Only hand which made sense to me was K5 / 95. I figured range was so polarised to boats and that flushes would be too dangerous to bet. Fortunately I was right and it wasn't someone value betting thin.



Quite a nice size pot for me. Dream flop. I didn't like the turn and with 50bb left behind on river I didn't really want to shove it because I was scared of getting snapped by a donk drawing to nut flush but that didn't happen



This wasn't so fun I had J798ds and decided to 3bet it in position. Flop wasn't amazing for me so I decided to check behind. I turned nuts + redraw to better straights + redraw to flush and bet ready to get it in. Hated the river

06-09-2012 , 12:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ugthemc
Its been do long since I've been crushing 2nl/5nl/10nl( 1 months and some change) that I'e forgotten how good it feels. I think I'm going to have to live vicariously through you
more frustrating than feel good at NL2 haha. Can't wait to move up to NL5 though it may just be as fishy from what i've heard
06-09-2012 , 02:12 PM
Been playing 2nl so far and managed to get my roll up from $54 to $62, going to have a splash on some 5nl tables later and see how it goes!
06-09-2012 , 02:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Golgot
Been playing 2nl so far and managed to get my roll up from $54 to $62, going to have a splash on some 5nl tables later and see how it goes!
imo you should stay with nl2 for a bit longer
06-09-2012 , 02:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by I Liek Mudkipz
imo you should stay with nl2 for a bit longer
Usually I'd agree with you, but Im going to have a spare $50 to top up my account with in a couple of days, so my effective roll is a little over $100 which I think is fine to try starting out at $5nl. Obviously if things go wrong and I lose a bit of money I'll move down back to 2nl until I'm more confident of my play.
06-09-2012 , 07:01 PM
graph for the month so far

06-09-2012 , 10:58 PM
^^ nice graph

Overall, its tough to know where I'm at br wise because I keep having to cash out and I play on a few sites.

But I KNOW I'm losing money in PLO this month, 5-6 buy ins over a small sample
And I'm up in NL, 3- 4 buy ins over small sample.
06-09-2012 , 11:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by I Liek Mudkipz
more frustrating than feel good at NL2 haha. Can't wait to move up to NL5 though it may just be as fishy from what i've heard
Its just a fishy up to 50nl IMO. Seems like 2nl/5nl/10nl/16nl/25nl( aka "The Micros")on Starz is the same player pool.

I took 2nl seriously until I had like 80 bucks in my roll... then it was like.. what the hell. I'll call a bet for another 80 cents( which is almost 50 bbs at 2nl obv lol)...

Then I was like.. I probably should move up now.

btw I dont know why you said its frustrating at 2nl
06-10-2012 , 04:07 AM
Had to post this. Villain obviously tilting, but coz it was late I just saw the 2 7s come out and thought he'd won it. I was so p*ssed off I quit for the night (it was late anyway).

Went to do a hand review this morning and wondered why i couldn't find it with the biggest losses. Think it was definitely time for bed!

Recall being slightly worried by his large raise pre, then reraise, but he was pretty aggro so it wasn't like I'm not going to be getting Kings in there against him, and if he showed me Aces then so be it.

    Pacific, $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13168831

    BB: $41.73 (208.7 bb)
    MP: $22.06 (110.3 bb)
    CO: $44.94 (224.7 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $20 (100 bb)
    SB: $27.16 (135.8 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with K K
    MP raises to $1.10, CO calls $1.10, Hero raises to $4, 2 folds, MP raises to $10.32, CO folds, Hero raises to $20 and is all-in, MP calls $9.68

    Flop: ($41.40) K T 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    Turn: ($41.40) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: ($41.40) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: $41.40 pot ($2.07 rake)
    Final Board: K T 7 6 7
    MP showed K 7 and lost (-$20 net)
    Hero showed K K and won $39.33 ($19.33 net)



    Get the Flash Player to use the Hold'em Manager Replayer.
    06-10-2012 , 07:35 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ugthemc
    btw I dont know why you said its frustrating at 2nl
    I guess it's more the fact that the fish will keep their hands to the very end and then catch their 1 outer on the river haha. But 9 times out of 10, you're winning over them anyways so it all works out
    06-10-2012 , 10:41 AM
    back up to 80, going to give NL5 a go and move back down when i hit $70 (currently back up to $80) was planning on moving up at $100 but will give it a shot
    06-10-2012 , 11:52 AM
    After my shocking day yesterday (lost 6.5BI in just less than 1,500 hands) I needed a good day today and I certainly got one: 8BI in 1,000 hands. I never seem to have a sustained period where I'm either steadily going up or down, it's just severe falls and climbs but as look as my BR is increasing I'm not complaining!

    Was pretty lucky today because I won two flips for 100BB and my hands held up most of the time but was much happier with my play overall. There was 2/3 instances where I could of lost a stack with a relatively suspect call so I just played it safe and folded.

    Got my English A2 exam tomorrow then my History on Tuesday and once I've done those I'll be finished school so I can begin plenty of grinding hopefully! Aim is to be beating NL25 by the time I go to university, hopefully on my way towards NL50.
    06-10-2012 , 02:18 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raikkonen3
    Got my English A2 exam tomorrow then my History on Tuesday and once I've done those I'll be finished school so I can begin plenty of grinding hopefully! Aim is to be beating NL25 by the time I go to university, hopefully on my way towards NL50.
    You seem to have similar goals to me. Difference between us is I've got six exams left. :/ Four of which are maths exams.

    Anyway, played another short session (286 hands) and ended up 1.5 BI up, which is fairly good going. It seems most of my biggest losses were due to misclicks this session (I'm trying out cascading my tables instead of using Party's stacking console):

    Would've folded river:

    PartyGaming - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 7 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    UTG+1: $1.76
    MP: $2.98
    CO: $3.51
    BTN: $0.64
    SB: $4.35
    Hero (BB): $2.00
    UTG: $1.75

    SB posts SB $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has 9 9

    UTG calls $0.02, UTG+1 raises to $0.04, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.06, fold, Hero calls $0.04, UTG calls $0.04, UTG+1 calls $0.02

    Flop: ($0.25, 4 players) 7 5 A
    Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, BTN checks

    Turn: ($0.25, 4 players) 4
    Hero checks, UTG bets $0.12, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.12

    River: ($0.49, 2 players) 8
    Hero checks, UTG bets $0.35, Hero calls $0.35

    Spoiler:
    UTG shows 5 5 (Three of a Kind, Fives) (Pre 18%, Flop 89%, Turn 95%)
    Hero mucks 9 9 (One Pair, Nines) (Pre 82%, Flop 11%, Turn 5%)
    UTG wins $1.14



    And I meant to click raise on another table but this one popped up in front for some reason (surprised he didn't 3bet the river as it's got to be so rare I have FHs in my range with this line):

    PartyGaming - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    UTG: $4.95
    MP: $2.04
    CO: $3.16
    BTN: $2.39
    SB: $0.51
    Hero (BB): $2.00

    SB posts SB $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has 3 A

    fold, MP calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, fold, SB calls $0.01, Hero checks

    Flop: ($0.08, 4 players) 9 Q A
    SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks

    Turn: ($0.08, 4 players) A
    SB checks, Hero bets $0.06, MP calls $0.06, fold, fold

    River: ($0.20, 2 players) 5
    Hero checks, MP bets $0.20, Hero raises to $0.40, MP calls $0.20

    Spoiler:
    Hero shows 3 A (Three of a Kind, Aces) (Pre 56%, Flop 63%, Turn 23%)
    MP shows K 6 (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 44%, Flop 37%, Turn 77%)
    MP wins $0.95
    06-10-2012 , 03:35 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by TheDefiniteArticle
    You seem to have similar goals to me. Difference between us is I've got six exams left. :/ Four of which are maths exams.

    Anyway, played another short session (286 hands) and ended up 1.5 BI up, which is fairly good going. It seems most of my biggest losses were due to misclicks this session (I'm trying out cascading my tables instead of using Party's stacking console):

    Would've folded river:

    PartyGaming - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 7 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    UTG+1: $1.76
    MP: $2.98
    CO: $3.51
    BTN: $0.64
    SB: $4.35
    Hero (BB): $2.00
    UTG: $1.75

    SB posts SB $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has 9 9

    UTG calls $0.02, UTG+1 raises to $0.04, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.06, fold, Hero calls $0.04, UTG calls $0.04, UTG+1 calls $0.02

    Flop: ($0.25, 4 players) 7 5 A
    Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, BTN checks

    Turn: ($0.25, 4 players) 4
    Hero checks, UTG bets $0.12, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.12

    River: ($0.49, 2 players) 8
    Hero checks, UTG bets $0.35, Hero calls $0.35

    Spoiler:
    UTG shows 5 5 (Three of a Kind, Fives) (Pre 18%, Flop 89%, Turn 95%)
    Hero mucks 9 9 (One Pair, Nines) (Pre 82%, Flop 11%, Turn 5%)
    UTG wins $1.14



    And I meant to click raise on another table but this one popped up in front for some reason (surprised he didn't 3bet the river as it's got to be so rare I have FHs in my range with this line):

    PartyGaming - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    UTG: $4.95
    MP: $2.04
    CO: $3.16
    BTN: $2.39
    SB: $0.51
    Hero (BB): $2.00

    SB posts SB $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has 3 A

    fold, MP calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, fold, SB calls $0.01, Hero checks

    Flop: ($0.08, 4 players) 9 Q A
    SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks

    Turn: ($0.08, 4 players) A
    SB checks, Hero bets $0.06, MP calls $0.06, fold, fold

    River: ($0.20, 2 players) 5
    Hero checks, MP bets $0.20, Hero raises to $0.40, MP calls $0.20

    Spoiler:
    Hero shows 3 A (Three of a Kind, Aces) (Pre 56%, Flop 63%, Turn 23%)
    MP shows K 6 (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 44%, Flop 37%, Turn 77%)
    MP wins $0.95
    Should have done what I did; fail Maths at AS level. Yeah my aim is just to make a little side cash at university so that I don't need to get a job, so basically I need to get as high up the micros by September as after that point I'll be depositing excess money rather than building a bankroll.
    06-10-2012 , 04:29 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dunna100
    Spoiler:
    Results: $41.40 pot ($2.07 rake)
    Final Board: K T 7 6 7
    MP showed K 7 and lost (-$20 net)
    Hero showed K K and won $39.33 ($19.33 net)
    Wow, wouldn't have put him on that hand after the pre-flop action!
    Bet he was fist-pumping after the flop, loool.

    Was worried when the turn came on this hand, and surprised to see what villain stacked off with:

    PartyGaming - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 7 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

    CO: $3.61
    BTN: $1.96
    SB: $6.92
    BB: $0.80
    Hero (UTG): $2.07
    UTG+1: $2.18
    MP: $2.00

    SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

    Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has K K

    Hero raises to $0.06, UTG+1 calls $0.06, fold, fold, fold, SB calls $0.05, fold

    Flop: ($0.20, 3 players) K J 2
    SB checks, Hero bets $0.14, UTG+1 raises to $0.28, fold, Hero raises to $0.77, UTG+1 calls $0.49

    Turn: ($1.74, 2 players) T
    Hero bets $1.24 and is all-in, UTG+1 calls $1.24

    River: ($4.22, 2 players) 4

    Spoiler:
    Hero shows K K (Three of a Kind, Kings) (Pre 86%, Flop 97%, Turn 82%)
    UTG+1 shows Q K (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 14%, Flop 3%, Turn 18%)
    Hero wins $4.01


    This hand was pretty sick, however. Can't blame villain for calling down with 2 pair, but river totally sucked.

    PartyGaming - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 8 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

    CO: $1.78
    BTN: $3.01
    SB: $3.40
    BB: $2.06
    UTG: $0.40
    Hero (UTG+1): $2.24
    MP: $0.89
    MP+1: $1.58

    SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

    Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has K J

    UTG calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.06, fold, MP+1 calls $0.06, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.04

    Flop: ($0.21, 3 players) A T Q
    UTG checks, Hero bets $0.15, MP+1 calls $0.15, fold

    Turn: ($0.51, 2 players) 9
    Hero bets $0.36, MP+1 calls $0.36

    River: ($1.23, 2 players) A
    Hero bets $0.87, MP+1 raises to $1.01 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.14

    Spoiler:
    Hero shows K J (Straight, Ace High) (Pre 41%, Flop 82%, Turn 91%)
    MP+1 shows A Q (Full House, Aces full of Queens) (Pre 59%, Flop 18%, Turn 9%)
    MP+1 wins $3.09

          
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