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Originally Posted by tucanroman
When you say I must be pushing those hands not to be explotable, how do you understand that in math terms? I mean: where is the line that divides A5s from A4s? and how do you adapt it to villains?
That may be the key for me. Using just a chart is horrible, doing things because that's how it is and not undestanding what I am doing.
Yes, sometimes it is hard to just trust a chart. I'm certainly not 'math guy' either. But I will point out two things ...
1) The charts are there for 'you' and the situation you are in. They remove all V influence. It simply indicates that these hands are 'probably' the best you're going to do and that the odds are that the remaining hands are weaker. You can't get pushed off your opening raise since you are all-in. So some of the 'poker' is now taken out of the hand. And remember that 'most' opponents call tighter than they shove. So you are pushing a 9.5% hand and hopefully now fading a 5% hand behind you.
2) When you shove from other than the blinds you add more chips to your stack than when you 'wait' and shove from the BB (v SB or more). You lose a lot of FE after a player already has chips in the pot. Perceptually you are shoving wider from the BB than UTG so that widens player's calling ranges which means you need to survive a showdown v just taking the pot down PF.
As you indicate, a 15bb stack is 'fine' but when you just open and reduce that stack (and introduce better pot odds to an opponent) you may end up seeing a Flop OOP multi-way ... and thus allow an opponent to call your shove more confidently since they've seen 3 cards cheaper. GL