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I made MTT Range Sheets - help me to improve them! [Mid/Lategame] I made MTT Range Sheets - help me to improve them! [Mid/Lategame]

08-09-2020 , 09:41 AM
NOT FINISHED SO DO NOT USE THEM YET!

Hello ,

because I could'nt find anything good online, i created MTT Range Sheets for every Position for the Mid/Lategame. (Obviously they're not for the early game because the stacks are way to even in the beginning)

I went with the data from the following side: https://calcpark.com/poker-hand-rang...r/#/?_k=ee1gsy

Caution: Like every other sheet, this should just be a rough guideline of which hands to play in which Postion with given Stack size. Things like notes on different players (Very Thight/Loose Big blind, Stack sizes behind etc.) are not included and should still be considered while playing.

The concept is..

If youre <10 bbs, you open with top 5% hands aus UTG or UTG+1

If youre <20 bbs, you open with top 7% hands aus UTG or UTG+1

If youre <30 bbs, you open with top 9% hands aus UTG or UTG+1

(UTG and UTG+1 have the same range, because I think they're pretty much the same and I saw this on other Range Sheets alot)

..then, for the next Position, the Percentages add up like following..

<10bbs 5% -> 7% (+2%)

<20bbs 7% -> 10% (+3%)

<30bbs 9% -> 13% (+4%)

.. and so on!

Link to the Range Sheet (DO NOT USE IT YET, IT PROB. WONT HELP YOUR GAME): https://imgur.com/ae8zdZT

Link to the current Percentages: https://imgur.com/8YjewiW

Now to my problems:

Suited connecter dont get included from the side I get the data from, but i always thought SCs are pretty decent hands. Should I add them manually? If yes, where should they start?

Iam feel like its too loose with 30bbs in the EPs and to thight with 30bbs in the LPs. Whats your opinion/how should I fix it?

Should I add <40bbs?

I went with this concept (Percentages) because it FELT right, currently Iam not even sure if its kinda good or complete bullshit, so if it is, please tell me why or how to fix it.

If you guys can help me Ill make a new Post with the updated Version, so everyone can use them for free.
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08-10-2020 , 12:28 PM


1) All positions are wayyy too tight. You could add 10% to every figure on that chart and still be too tight.
2) You need to specify the size of the open. Is it a shove or a standard open?
3) You should incorporate standard push-fold charts into the shoving range.
4) At this point you're just randomly guessing. You'll get better results if you learn how to use tools like Equilab/ICMizer/Piosolver.


If you want correct ranges, The book Modern Theory of Poker by Acevedo, has a ton of solved MTT ranges. For reference, UTG's opening range should be closer to ~15% at most stack depths and BTN should open between 40%-50% depending on stack depth. (12.5% ante).

Last edited by tombos21; 08-10-2020 at 12:36 PM.
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08-10-2020 , 07:04 PM
you're trying to simplify poker in a way it can't be simplified

if you're sub-10bb, you're fine just using existing push/fold charts unless there's a reason to do something different. with respect, looking at this strat you are nowhere near being able to improve on push/fold charts.

don't work too hard on this, it won't do what you want it to.

sorry if this comes across a little blunt
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08-11-2020 , 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDefiniteArticle
you're trying to simplify poker in a way it can't be simplified
it's as if people want a golden bullet flowchart that'll make them profitable and not have to think at all but at the same time have it not available to all their opponents so everyone loses
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08-11-2020 , 11:17 AM
No mention of other players stack sizes and tendencies = incomplete analysis.
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