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01-17-2019 , 05:13 PM
Sorry, I have to say it.

Stop posting results. results are not only irrelevant, they taint how people will comment on your strategy.
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01-17-2019 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
The ATs is actually fine, although it would be the bottom of my range for betting the river. Although it made trips, there aren't many worse Ax hands that can call.
Your sizings are decent in that hand too. At least you didn't keep potting it, as that would guarantee that worse hands fold.
''Fine'' defines it perfect.
is it Good/Great?
No.

Here's why

First off I'm going to disregard all hud stats since not enough hands.

This hand is a perfect example of microstakes exploitative situations.

We're playing against 2 fishy opponents and need to adjust accordingly. AKA GTO can take a walk/smoke break for this hand.

I suggest folding pre if you don't want to find yourself in WTF spots.

UTG has 7.5BB to start the hand. If he's open limping - he's not folding.

MP limps behind and that is in most cases never a strong hand. If he had a premium holding or a medium pair he'd probably isolate the UTG limp.

If we really want to play this hand we should raise to 10BB and give the UTG player a spin for the last $0.15 to his name and pray for the MP player to fold his weak holdings. Assuming MP is also a massive fish (which by the way this hand played he is) he's probably never folding his pocket pair even after our raise. That leads to us possibly raising to even more but it sounds ridiculous doing so with A10s. -EV for sure.

I loved the post flop play, although we can probably check back river as we don't really get called by worse often.

On the other hand:

I AM ACTUALLY AMAZED BY THE SIMPLE COMPLEXITY OF THAT HAND AND HOW GREAT POKER IS AFTER ALL!
WE ARE HERE FOR GREAT MOMENTS LIKE THAT

OP YOU SHOULD BE ACTUALLY PROUD THAT YOU GOT INTO A HAND LIKE THAT AND ENJOY EVERY MOMENT OF IT


There is actually so much going on, I am not sure if it's worth typing.

Why is UTG player having just 15cents? Did he just lose $1.85 and did not have time to rebuy? Why is his autorebuy not on? Is it the last 15 cents in his account? Did he lose 4 stacks on this table? Why is he limping? Has he been limping every hand so far? How much time did he take before limping? What's his screen name? his avatar?

Why is MP limping behind? Is he on some next level trap bs? Can't be a trap, no one slowplays in the micros, right? What hands would he limp behind with and not isolate? How would he react to a 3.5bb raise? How would he react to a 10BB raise? How would he react to a 25bb raise?

This is absolutely awesome!
MAN I LOVE **** POKER!!!
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01-17-2019 , 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Kurn, son of Mogh
Sorry, I have to say it.

Stop posting results. results are not only irrelevant, they taint how people will comment on your strategy.
It's not about the results, but the process. It's easier for me to copy-paste the whole hand rather than only part of it. Would you recommand I delete the result?
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01-17-2019 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by King Spew
Stop. Just stop it.

AA (with nut FD) v KK (((edit: GAWK, are you kidding us?? What is your SPR on the flop!)))

The only thing you need to be doing right now is to database hunt for ALL the hands where you had TP or an overpair. Not just the coolers.

Taking that data and finding out where you stand with ALL similar situations..... then report back your findings. Then we have something to work with.

While individual hands are important!....... your bias to only losing hands (with many coolers) may be getting the better of you.
I was just wondering if I could have avoided the end result. If I should have slowed down on the flop, or later...
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01-17-2019 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
The ATs is actually fine, although it would be the bottom of my range for betting the river. Although it made trips, there aren't many worse Ax hands that can call.
Your sizings are decent in that hand too. At least you didn't keep potting it, as that would guarantee that worse hands fold.
Thanks
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01-17-2019 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by michaelorcharlie
''Fine'' defines it perfect.
is it Good/Great?
No.

Here's why

First off I'm going to disregard all hud stats since not enough hands.

This hand is a perfect example of microstakes exploitative situations.

We're playing against 2 fishy opponents and need to adjust accordingly. AKA GTO can take a walk/smoke break for this hand.

I suggest folding pre if you don't want to find yourself in WTF spots.

UTG has 7.5BB to start the hand. If he's open limping - he's not folding.

MP limps behind and that is in most cases never a strong hand. If he had a premium holding or a medium pair he'd probably isolate the UTG limp.

If we really want to play this hand we should raise to 10BB and give the UTG player a spin for the last $0.15 to his name and pray for the MP player to fold his weak holdings. Assuming MP is also a massive fish (which by the way this hand played he is) he's probably never folding his pocket pair even after our raise. That leads to us possibly raising to even more but it sounds ridiculous doing so with A10s. -EV for sure.

I loved the post flop play, although we can probably check back river as we don't really get called by worse often.

On the other hand:

I AM ACTUALLY AMAZED BY THE SIMPLE COMPLEXITY OF THAT HAND AND HOW GREAT POKER IS AFTER ALL!
WE ARE HERE FOR GREAT MOMENTS LIKE THAT

OP YOU SHOULD BE ACTUALLY PROUD THAT YOU GOT INTO A HAND LIKE THAT AND ENJOY EVERY MOMENT OF IT


There is actually so much going on, I am not sure if it's worth typing.

Why is UTG player having just 15cents? Did he just lose $1.85 and did not have time to rebuy? Why is his autorebuy not on? Is it the last 15 cents in his account? Did he lose 4 stacks on this table? Why is he limping? Has he been limping every hand so far? How much time did he take before limping? What's his screen name? his avatar?

Why is MP limping behind? Is he on some next level trap bs? Can't be a trap, no one slowplays in the micros, right? What hands would he limp behind with and not isolate? How would he react to a 3.5bb raise? How would he react to a 10BB raise? How would he react to a 25bb raise?

This is absolutely awesome!
MAN I LOVE **** POKER!!!
Hehe, I enjoyed reading your analysis!
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01-18-2019 , 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by baal666
It's not about the results, but the process. It's easier for me to copy-paste the whole hand rather than only part of it. Would you recommand I delete the result?
Yes, delete the result. You'll get more accurate analysis.
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01-18-2019 , 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Kurn, son of Mogh
Yes, delete the result. You'll get more accurate analysis.
OK!
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