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Originally Posted by amarri
Little confuse as why some are saying check the turn and river ?
Here is another question 1/2 NL Live effective stacks 300 heads up some one from UTG+1 MAKES it 15 folds to you with QQ in HJ you make it 40 and they make it 100 at that point is it mathematically correct to call or jam ?
1) Where are you seeing this? The assumption is that you are OOP and thus 'need' to check in order to c/r (or ck/call) your opponent. These guys count on getting a lot a folds via aggression ... So you either bet into them and nip the aggression in the bud or simply think of their bets as 'your' value bets that they are putting out there for you. In theory you can actually call lighter since they are betting a wider range. They are counting on opponents only calling them when they have 'major' equity and hope to make up the losses with the chips they collect via the folds.
2) Against an unknown 1/2 Player this may actually be a fold. There are 12 combos of AA/KK and 4 combos of AKs. Show me 16 other hands that you are ahead of here against an 'unknown' Player putting in a 'min' 4-bet. Now certainly after even an hour or so you should be able to range most 1/2 Players and their style, which could open up the door. They also will have an image for your style and that may play a factor if you have been involved in a lot of hands.
Are you folding the Flop the 30+% of the time an Ace or King hits? If not, then just get it in now so you can see 5 cards. But be prepared to be behind almost every time they call. There's nothing wrong with taking down $100 PF without seeing a Flop in a 1/2 game.
This spot drastically changes at when the stack is below $150 IMO. Players ranges are way wider in hopes of doubling up or getting back to their starting stack after a loss and makes it a pretty easy shove/call spot.
My stance on this is that I can probably accumulate more chips in easier spots than this one, so I give up the $40 as an 'investment' into future hands.
The 4-bet bluff is just so rare at 1/2, but you still need a bit of a read since some Players have seen 4-bets in cash games on stream with TT/99 .. they just don't realize/remember how much deeper those games are compared to the 100-200 BB spots at 1/2. GL