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Old 03-13-2019, 10:59 PM   #1
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How to exploits big cbets?

Villain cbetting 100% BTN vs BB with 55% pot.
Itīs known that it is bad.
How do we explot it tho? Why is it bad?
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Old 03-13-2019, 11:02 PM   #2
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Re: How to exploits big cbets?

What we do also depends on how often he double and triple barrels, as well as how often he folds to checkraises

But in general you punish high cbet percentages by check raising a lot. You can start to check raise top pairs if their cbet percentage is very high in addition to all your 2 pairs or better, and some bluffs too weak to call

Much of his range will be air that will have to fold
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Old 03-14-2019, 12:07 AM   #3
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Re: How to exploits big cbets?

shove it all in
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Old 03-14-2019, 02:19 AM   #4
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Re: How to exploits big cbets?

What to do against big cbets?
Like 75% when he has nut advantage.

Turn and river barrel freq extremely high.
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Old 03-14-2019, 03:47 AM   #5
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Re: How to exploits big cbets?

If they're cbetting 100%, I tend to call flop and x/r turn a lot. Not doing it without equity though, would tend to have a lot of draws and some nutted hands. Calling down a lot with TP type hands.
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:22 AM   #6
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Re: How to exploits big cbets?

Playing against 'action' Players can be both fun and aggravating at the same time. The responses have been good. But why? These types of Players get their fun out of forcing the action and when you c/r (or lead Turns and Rivers) you take that fun away from them.

As you probably already know, this is a high variance style and they have come to live with the the bankroll swings. Most other Players don't 'appreciate' variance the same way, which allows them to get run over at times by these Players ... or they just tighten up so much that it's pretty easy to play against that range.

Typically you can find some patterns that may help you. Like the difference between a 55 and 75% sizing. I tend to agree that if you are taking a c/c Flop/Turn approach you better have some sort of hand if you donk the River. I think it's much wiser to c/r Flop or donk Turn before this type of Player's stubborn side generates a higher percentage of River calls. GL
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Old 03-14-2019, 03:40 PM   #7
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Playing against 'action' Players can be both fun and aggravating at the same time. The responses have been good. But why? These types of Players get their fun out of forcing the action and when you c/r (or lead Turns and Rivers) you take that fun away from them.

As you probably already know, this is a high variance style and they have come to live with the the bankroll swings. Most other Players don't 'appreciate' variance the same way, which allows them to get run over at times by these Players ... or they just tighten up so much that it's pretty easy to play against that range.

Typically you can find some patterns that may help you. Like the difference between a 55 and 75% sizing. I tend to agree that if you are taking a c/c Flop/Turn approach you better have some sort of hand if you donk the River. I think it's much wiser to c/r Flop or donk Turn before this type of Player's stubborn side generates a higher percentage of River calls. GL
I cr a lot today and they overfold to it.
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Old 03-14-2019, 07:40 PM   #8
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Re: How to exploits big cbets?

The first step is checking 100% of the time on the flop.
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Old 03-16-2019, 10:31 AM   #9
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Re: How to exploits big cbets?

Little confuse as why some are saying check the turn and river ?
It has been my experience that guys that pot size cbet or 2x pot cbet the flop are the same guys that are going to bet every street down to and including the river.
Maybe its just me but i would have to have MAJOR MAJOR equity to continue in that spot.

Here is another question 1/2 NL Live effective stacks 300 heads up some one from UTG+1 MAKES it 15 folds to you with QQ in HJ you make it 40 and they make it 100 at that point is it mathematically correct to call or jam ?
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Old 03-19-2019, 09:19 AM   #10
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Little confuse as why some are saying check the turn and river ?

Here is another question 1/2 NL Live effective stacks 300 heads up some one from UTG+1 MAKES it 15 folds to you with QQ in HJ you make it 40 and they make it 100 at that point is it mathematically correct to call or jam ?
1) Where are you seeing this? The assumption is that you are OOP and thus 'need' to check in order to c/r (or ck/call) your opponent. These guys count on getting a lot a folds via aggression ... So you either bet into them and nip the aggression in the bud or simply think of their bets as 'your' value bets that they are putting out there for you. In theory you can actually call lighter since they are betting a wider range. They are counting on opponents only calling them when they have 'major' equity and hope to make up the losses with the chips they collect via the folds.

2) Against an unknown 1/2 Player this may actually be a fold. There are 12 combos of AA/KK and 4 combos of AKs. Show me 16 other hands that you are ahead of here against an 'unknown' Player putting in a 'min' 4-bet. Now certainly after even an hour or so you should be able to range most 1/2 Players and their style, which could open up the door. They also will have an image for your style and that may play a factor if you have been involved in a lot of hands.

Are you folding the Flop the 30+% of the time an Ace or King hits? If not, then just get it in now so you can see 5 cards. But be prepared to be behind almost every time they call. There's nothing wrong with taking down $100 PF without seeing a Flop in a 1/2 game.

This spot drastically changes at when the stack is below $150 IMO. Players ranges are way wider in hopes of doubling up or getting back to their starting stack after a loss and makes it a pretty easy shove/call spot.

My stance on this is that I can probably accumulate more chips in easier spots than this one, so I give up the $40 as an 'investment' into future hands.

The 4-bet bluff is just so rare at 1/2, but you still need a bit of a read since some Players have seen 4-bets in cash games on stream with TT/99 .. they just don't realize/remember how much deeper those games are compared to the 100-200 BB spots at 1/2. GL
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Old 03-20-2019, 01:13 AM   #11
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Re: How to exploits big cbets?

just start betting yourself. then he has to think. if your playing against a bot who does this then bot might fold lol.
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Old 03-20-2019, 01:37 AM   #12
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just start betting yourself. then he has to think. if your playing against a bot who does this then bot might fold lol.
excellent way to burn money
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Old 03-20-2019, 03:17 AM   #13
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excellent way to burn money
If you don't listen to Father P then thats a excellent way of burning money.

as the hodgetwins say do whatever the **** you wanna do.
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