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Old 06-30-2020, 09:01 PM   #1
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How do I know if i'm playing well or just on a heater

Started playing again in march after about 5 years off (I was a break even player at best).
I joined 888 and with the free $8 i have built up a bankroll but i cant help think i'm just running well.
I have tried downloading poker tracker and holdem manager but my laptop is having none of it.
Is there any website that i can see what games i'm doing well at or not.
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Old 06-30-2020, 09:03 PM   #2
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Re: How do I know if i'm playing well or just on a heater

started with small buy in tournaments but now mainly sngs with a few tournaments when i have time
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Old 06-30-2020, 11:31 PM   #3
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any player that is a winning player should be able to watch how their opponents play and see that they play better. if you cant you probably dont.
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Old 07-01-2020, 03:05 AM   #4
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Re: How do I know if i'm playing well or just on a heater

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any player that is a winning player should be able to watch how their opponents play and see that they play better. if you cant you probably dont.
I'm not sure how true this is unless you are really good.

I beat lowest levels of zoom on stars, not sure if 16nlz is where I no longer win or I'm just running badly. I think it's really besides the point whether you beat the games or not though unless you play for a living, it's about getting better. Just because I'm not sure I beat 16nlz doesn't mean I'm not going to shot take when it fits whatever BRM I'm using.

Also if I ran good at 16nlz (but was not winning there in reality) and built a roll for 25nlz I'd sit down and play that too.
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Old 07-02-2020, 11:25 AM   #5
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Re: How do I know if i'm playing well or just on a heater

I don't think you need to be 'really' good to recognize whether you are making good poker decisions or not. Unless you never go to Showdown you are getting feedback on your play very often.

It all comes down to whether or not the 'information' you used to make your decisions was 'correct'. Were your betting for value or did you suck out?

Are you folding too often? How often are you good when you call? If you are 'always' good when you call, then you are folding too often.

If you are playing a high variance style, you know if you are drawing out and/or your TPMK 'shove' hands are holding against other draws. Are you generating 'too many' folds from your opponents and possibly missing value due to being predictable?

I don't even think we want to use the word 'good' here ... I think any 'experienced' poker Player really knows how they are playing 'deep down'. It's just a matter of whether they have the discipline to make adjustments to 'better' plays.

Are you playing cards, gambling or 'playing poker'? Card players and gamblers alike need to run good in the long run while poker players can limit losses and embellish gains based on the table dynamic. GL
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Old 07-02-2020, 02:44 PM   #6
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there are always better players than you around. and you had better be able to tell when they are in your game or not. just playing what you think is correctly isnt good enough to beat players that play better than or equal to you. you do have to recognize them and play according to that with them and know what games you can beat or not.
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Old 07-02-2020, 04:47 PM   #7
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Re: How do I know if i'm playing well or just on a heater

If playing poker is you making each decision as optimal as you can how can you know someone is better? You literally can't if it is based on your own skill level. You can think that players are playing well (based on your own context of decision making) and that might be enough to kill the game but that is it. You've all been around long enough to know that stuff people were doing that was thought to be bad now clearly isn't at all.

The idea that getting information on players cards gives you enough to know if they are playing good is laughable in the huge amount of short term bias that would result in (why live players believe mad **** to be true). Not only that though it just isn't true, if someone bluffs a hand you might go lol what an idiot but it may be the nut hand to bluff with in a spot where you don't realise you massively overfold.

The honest answer to this thread is that you don't. You play and get stats and make decisions from that, that is the only way. If you play 100k hands and you are losing at a large clip then you are probably losing, if winning a lot you are probably winning. If break even then you could be winning or losing.

Experience means very little in poker, I'd happily sit down with regs who played millions of hands before black friday at mid stakes but haven't played since despite not having that "experience" and I'm relatively **** in the grand scheme of things.

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Old 07-03-2020, 09:28 AM   #8
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Re: How do I know if i'm playing well or just on a heater

I can identify mistakes that pretty much everyone else in my player pool is making but I'm pretty sure they can identify mistakes I'm making too.
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