Ok, I need some help because I feel really slighted by the casino and now I am on perma-tilt and down $5k since the incident, but because I was drinking and sleep-deprived I was unable to reason with casino floor.

The Floorman Brandon made an incorrect ruling and the Manager Chase at Harras New Orleans poker room confirmed with me the chips should have stayed in the pot.

I was playing a 1/2 game at 6 am Tueday morning, I had been at the casino for 12 hours and I was on a wicked downswing, also drinking straight whiskey.

Our table broke around 6 am and I was reseated at a full table with a regular who had a deep stack. I only sat down with around $200

I was dealt AA in the UTG position and I threw a $25 chip in the pot as a "call" and I didnt say anything. The dealer said "call." (I am drunk) Next player puts in the call. THEN I SAY< OH I MEANT TO RAISE and the dealer looked at me like weird. He didnt know what to say.... so then the next guy to act was this deep stacked regular sitting with $1.5k He throws in $25 in and says "Well I'll make it $25" then there is one caller (A GIRL) before it goes back to me and I shove all in my chips across the bet line for about $150 more....

The deep stack regular then shoves in at least $100 in chips and says he is calling my bet.

THEN THE GIRL STARTS COMPLAINING THAT SHE DOESNT KNOW IF I CAN GO ALL IN BECAUSE IT WAS NOT DEFINED IF I ORIGINALLY RAISED OR CALLED THE BLIND.

At this point, all my chips are in the pot, and the other player (deep stack) has put more than enough to cover me into the pot (across the line)

The girl, who is all pissy about something, pretty much says, dont worry about it Im "OUT" but she held her cards and started complaining to the floor guy

I then thought that she was going to fold and if anything, I was going to help her make the decision to fold by showing AA I exposed my cards and TIME FROZE. From there, things got sketchy and the deep-stack player now was requesting to get all his chips out of the pot except the original $25 bet he made....

The Floorman who seems quite confused said we were going to a 3-way flop with (THE GIRL) and to take back our extra chips out of the pot...

THIS IS BULL****??? This guy should not have been able to take his chips back....Then after the flop I was first to act, I put my chips back in the pot and the other players folded because they knew i had AA.

My bet was essentially a blind all-in regardless of prior ruling? and the deep-stack player who put his chips in the pot to call my bet was essentially calling my bet blind!??! (IT seems like Chase the manager has confirmed this with me but besides that he said he would have to file with the state of Louisiana gaming comission to petetion them to get the money from the actual player?)

The manager Chase told me that the players chips should have never left the pot after he put them in the pot to call my Bet... The floorman Brandon did in fact make an incorrect ruling??? I am curious what people here have to say?

Instead of staying at the seat with my winnings, I took down a much smaller pot and when i started complaining to the floorman about the ruling, he told me I had to leave the table because I was causing a problem.

The amount of losses I took here far exceed the $150 chips I missed out on, I lost my seat at a full table, which was the only table, and the casino management failed me, as a lady named Dawn I was talking to at 7am said she was watching the video replay and saw the chips in the pot but she took Brandon's word and she was not going to change his ruling. So this lady also made an incorrect ruling.

It wasnt until later in the day I talked to Chase and he confirmed that he watched the film and saw the chips enter the pot and they should not have been given back to the player they should have been awarded to the winning hand...

I cant believe this guy brandon did this to me now he just sent me on life tilt.

You have bigger issues to worry about than that one ruling.

its horrible to drink alcohol while playing.

I am sure that it is possible to reconstruct the hand in such a way that you can feel like you were wronged, but you made such a train wreck of the action at every step that you pretty much made it impossible for the floor to get a clear understanding of what happened. As described, yes, you should have been held to a call UTG, the deep stack then raised, and you should have had all your options. But by angling (making an oversized chip call, then claiming it was a raise), then not clarifying things before flashing your hand, you really made it difficult for people to understand what was going on (I somehow doubt that everything was as clear and easy to follow as you have described it).

Lesson here, be clear in your actions, do not ever table your cards until everything is settled, don't (intentionally or accidentally ) angle, and you should probably not play when you are drunk.

Oh, and accept responsibility for your part in this fiasco, and stop playing until you are in a good frame of mind. This one wasn't Brandon's fault

Go home when you are too drunk to play. Especially if getting drunk leads to you doing those kind of shenanigans.

When I was driving over the road I used to be active in a truckers forum. This post reminds me of one. Guy's first post was a rant about how dangerous another trucker's action were on an interstate. Even had the video from his dashcam in the post. Showed him (the OP) engaging in dangerous maneuvers as he tried to drive up the rear of the other guys trailer while the other guy swerved all over the place trying to get away from him. All because he felt that the guy cut him off when he changed lanes in front of him. Needless to say that the respondents to his post refused to cosign his bs. I don't know what was more head shaking; the fact that he didn't have a clue or that he decided to make that his first (and only) post.

Yeah it sounds like you caused this whole problem TBH OP, by getting drunk, confusing the action and then displaying your hand before everything got sorted out. Also it seems cowardly to put some guy on blast for the entire internet to see by using his real name, like if you think it's that terrible, take it up with his employer but don't put his name online. Just feeds the lynchmob culture.

Also if you routinely get smashed on straight whisky while playing poker for real money, and if a ruling over a $200 pot causes you to go into 'perma tilt' and spew off $5K, you probably shouldn't be playing poker.

tl;dr you had the chance to learn a valuable lesson for the one-time low cost of $200 and instead of doing that, you torched off $5K.

Don't drink and angleshoot kids

That’s a nice way to put it. By the way he described it, he went for the angleshot that backfired.

I’m always rooting for the floor who tries to stick it to the angleshooter.

I don't even understand why OP is so furry mad. He tried to angle, actually got his way by being allowed to raise and then he is pissed he can't reopen his own bet.

I was sick of bad beat stories 2 minutes after starting to play poker, but I will never get tired of stories of people shooting themselves in the foot and then trying to blame the ambulance for not showing up fast enough to fix the problem they created.

"Here's my story--I did this wrong and this wrong and then this wrong and then I became a victim when someone made a minor, understandable mistake when they tried to fix the situation my string of mistakes made."

Stop externalizing your life.

Yeah true.

Amen!

this

OK guys.....let's take a collective breath.

Give OP a chance to reply.....hopefully something like:

"Yeah, I was too drunk to see that I f'ked up. Thanks for the honest answers."

Until then...please no more "piling on".

Floors (even me) make incorrect rulings all the time. Managers and other floors often have to tell a disgruntled player that "according to your story I may have handled it differently." But it won't change anything. Learn from your mistakes and behave and maybe things will go your way in the future.

yes give him a chance and hope he comes back. most times they dont as they just want people to agree with them.

he also got blasted and hopefully he realizes that his actions wont get him anywhere in the gambling world.

if he wants to learn about poker this is the place for him to come with a thick skin.

You guys should be ashamed for yourselves, going against the rules of the game you play.

The floor man made an incorrect ruling, letting chips leave the pot that had been put in by another player....

Oh this player wants his chips back because I exposed the best hand in poker?! You guys are pathetic...

The bottom line is the truth is on my side, the floorman does not know how to do his job, and its already been confirmed by his manager and the cameras. The manager said the other player's chips should have never been allowed to leave the pot once he put them in, whether he was calling my bet or making his own.

You guys are pathetic to go against the rules of the game you play.... whats the point to even having the rules....

If I make a blind bet at any point, and I put chips in the pot, I dont get to take them out, neither does any other player... its the rules of the game.

This guy voluntarily called my bet, whether it was the action, whether I was attempting to reopen the action I had capped, or whether it was a bet blind for the post-flop action, my bet was called by a player and how sleazy it is of the other player to desperately try to take his bet back based on some nothing really, besides a bit of confusion by the floor man of the rules apparently...

I always heard this was a legitimate poker site and I randomly lurked reading messages about people playing hands, but after these responses, I can see what a shady site this is.

The responses here had no regard for the rules of the game.... so sad to see such weakness.

and yea dude $5k downswing is tough, I have been playing this game for 20 years.... I can weather a storm, but when you get incorrect rulings against you, that is a whole different story.

Ive been playing in AUSTIN TX for two weeks and plan on going to the gulf coast next week. Already back unstuck, but I sure wouldn't play in a poker room where Brandon is the floorman. I literally got cheated because Brandon knew this other player and allowed the guy to take back the chips. It was nearly collusion, and the Louisiana gaming commission will most certifiably be hearing about it. I actually think I will skip playing in Louisiana for a long period due to the floor man's inability to enforce the rules.

Oh, and I always drink when I play poker. That doesnt mean the rule doesnt apply to me. People scolding me about drinking, wtf is this place... how unprofessional of a site...

Weapons free on OP again I guess

that's the response....?

You guys cannot accept the rules and you guys cannot accept that the floor man made an INCORRECT RULING.

Wow ok, scary site.

I'd normally be able to come up with some hilarious analogy here but OP is so deluded that I honestly can't, which is very impressive

LOL

OP, you already torched off $5K because you are right and everyone else is wrong. Why not make it $50K? Then you will be x10 as right.

I am closing this trainwreck. Frankie does not agree with our assessment and chooses to believe his version is the ONLY version.

From what I read in the first post in this thread, the following is very accurate:

Frankie, we hope you will return and contribute to this forum. If not, best of luck to you.