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09-08-2018 , 01:12 PM
I was playing a house game yesterday and we were playing six handed. three of the people were really good and the rest were pretty fishy and all over the place. My question is, are there times when your stack just dwindles away and you don’t get any action, cards, or find a good bluffing spot and the. eventually your $300 stack dwindles to busto in about six hours. Is this a normal thing to happen from time to time or is it just cause I suck??? .... made me feel like a total ****ing fish and that I should just never play again. I’ve never just had absolutely no swing in a game and it was the ****tyest game of my life. I literally got a deuce in every hand, no pocket pairs, had AQ once and it got 3 outed on. I don’t know FML I probably just suck. I should have played craps since they have real dice now at winstar (I live in Dallas) I miss being minutes away from the poker room. I hate house games.
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09-08-2018 , 01:23 PM
There's people online that have been on 100,000 hand downswings, a few hours of a live game is 100-200 hands maybe
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09-08-2018 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DJShipIt
Is this a normal thing to happen from time to time or is it just cause I suck???
Being card dead - or running badly with the few good hands you get dealt - is completely normal. In a live setting, the game is so slow (maybe just 20 hands per hour in some situations) that you can easily play for a few hours and never win a decent pot.
Online, I occasionally go for a stretch of 2000 hands without ever being all in (playing 100bb deep), while on other occasions I've been stacked twice in my first 6 hands. Random variance is random, ldo.
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09-08-2018 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
There's people online that have been on 100,000 hand downswings, a few hours of a live game is 100-200 hands maybe
Hope I don’t get to that point....

The play just..... sucked. I’ve been sucked out on the very first hand for my whole buyin and that was even more enjoyablethan this game lmao
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09-08-2018 , 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
Being card dead - or running badly with the few good hands you get dealt - is completely normal. In a live setting, the game is so slow (maybe just 20 hands per hour in some situations) that you can easily play for a few hours and never win a decent pot.
Online, I occasionally go for a stretch of 2000 hands without ever being all in (playing 100bb deep), while on other occasions I've been stacked twice in my first 6 hands. Random variance is random, ldo.
Man arty. You live on here. Lol thanks man. I appreciate the feedback.
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09-09-2018 , 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
Being card dead - or running badly with the few good hands you get dealt - is completely normal. In a live setting, the game is so slow (maybe just 20 hands per hour in some situations) that you can easily play for a few hours and never win a decent pot.
Online, I occasionally go for a stretch of 2000 hands without ever being all in (playing 100bb deep), while on other occasions I've been stacked twice in my first 6 hands. Random variance is random, ldo.
Bought in for 300 and left with $1100 last night. It felt really good to have a killer session after that **** one
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09-09-2018 , 02:37 PM
It's all one big session, don't think of things like that
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09-09-2018 , 07:52 PM
If you care about the money so much, maybe play smaller. You should care about making the right decisions regardless of outcome, and walk away from the table happy if you didn't make any mistakes. Leaving the table unhappy because you lost rather than because you made a mistake could affect your play in the future in a way that's not profitable for you in the long run.
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09-10-2018 , 02:05 PM
Honestly, I wonder how live game grinders make a living with that variance. If I get my balls kicked online at the highest stakes I play, I just go down one or two limits, open 8-12 tables and grind myself out of the hole.

It's not as emotionally draining to get 2outed when I play a lot of tables, since the next playable hand is just seconds away.

Grinding live cash games would be a nightmare for me XD
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09-10-2018 , 06:32 PM
"Grinding" anything is technically a nightmare. You should be playing because you are enjoying it. If you are saying it is a grind you should reconsider what you are doing
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09-11-2018 , 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
"Grinding" anything is technically a nightmare. You should be playing because you are enjoying it. If you are saying it is a grind you should reconsider what you are doing
Is it just me people?

answer please folks, is it just me?

Can someone else add their 2 pence worth to my question?
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09-11-2018 , 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
It's all one big session, don't think of things like that
He's quite within his right to feel elated if he wants, why you trying to recommend being a robot and emotionless, basically,

you're a serial nit picker!
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09-12-2018 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by PT4noobie
He's quite within his right to feel elated if he wants, why you trying to recommend being a robot and emotionless, basically,
He's correct, the money shouldn't make him feel anything, but knowing you made the right decisions should cause you to feel content. Feeling aren't causeless primaries, they are determined by the premises you hold. If you have the wrong emotional reaction to the wrong stimuli, it's because you implicit premises you hold are wrong.
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09-13-2018 , 12:33 PM
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He's quite within his right to feel elated if he wants, why you trying to recommend being a robot and emotionless, basically,

you're a serial nit picker!
Living and dying with each session, sweating the results of hand rather than the quality of the decision, these are both rookie mistakes that lead to emotional fatigue and all sorts of monkey tilt. Yes, every player has every right to feel whatever the heck they want. but if you want to get past the exploitable noob status, you have to start playing with your head, not your heart or your guts.

Yes, good players are somewhat more mechanical, as they remove emotion from their decisions. if that doesn't appeal to you, you will be more than welcome at any game I am at. I love guys who play with emotion.
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09-13-2018 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by PT4noobie
He's quite within his right to feel elated if he wants, why you trying to recommend being a robot and emotionless, basically,

you're a serial nit picker!
Of course it's OK for OP be feel elated, but if that elation causes him to lose perspective, or to overestimate his skill level, being elated won't help him be a long-term winner.

In poker, as in many aspects of life, emotion is your enemy and can lead to bad judgment.
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10-29-2018 , 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by DJShipIt
I was playing a house game yesterday and we were playing six handed. three of the people were really good and the rest were pretty fishy and all over the place. My question is, are there times when your stack just dwindles away and you don’t get any action, cards, or find a good bluffing spot and the. eventually your $300 stack dwindles to busto in about six hours. Is this a normal thing to happen from time to time or is it just cause I suck??? .... made me feel like a total ****ing fish and that I should just never play again. I’ve never just had absolutely no swing in a game and it was the ****tyest game of my life. I literally got a deuce in every hand, no pocket pairs, had AQ once and it got 3 outed on. I don’t know FML I probably just suck. I should have played craps since they have real dice now at winstar (I live in Dallas) I miss being minutes away from the poker room. I hate house games.
Your stack is going to dwindle down much faster in a home game because of the absurd rake. The house players can just keep adding to their stack since they'll get the rake back.
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10-29-2018 , 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
Your stack is going to dwindle down much faster in a home game because of the absurd rake. The house players can just keep adding to their stack since they'll get the rake back.


True story. I live in Dallas Texas so I was willing to check it out since you can’t play Texas hold’em in Texas lol. I’m sticking to Winstar by the boarder. They have some good action there and my win rate is better at Winstar


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10-29-2018 , 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by WorldzMine
He's correct, the money shouldn't make him feel anything, but knowing you made the right decisions should cause you to feel content. Feeling aren't causeless primaries, they are determined by the premises you hold. If you have the wrong emotional reaction to the wrong stimuli, it's because you implicit premises you hold are wrong.
"A is A, Professor".

We can't control the outcome, we can only control our decision process.

The mentally strong make fewer -EV mistakes.

Not "zero", but fewer.
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