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Having very minimal calling range. Good idea? Having very minimal calling range. Good idea?

08-31-2017 , 07:01 PM
What do you think about almost not having a calling range (except when defending the big blind). What do you think about having strategy where you mostly 3bet or fold except maybe pairs? So you would always have a lead with position? For 6max.
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08-31-2017 , 07:14 PM
I think most players do far more cold-calling in position than is theoretically optimal, and many hands would do better as 3-bets or folds. That said, it still seems to be fine to cold-call pretty often in the micros (e.g. with suited Broadways and SCs), because you don't get squeezed very often, and your opponents will play quite badly OOP as the PFR, and the blinds will often overcall and then play horribly in multiway pots. 3-betting light at the micros can be problematic as well, as you often lack the fold equity required for the 3-bets to be more profitable than calls. Much depends on the tendencies of your player pool. If they have a high fold to 3-bet percentage, then you should exploit it. If they still stack off top pair/overpair when you have a 2pr+, then calling works better.

Although a '3-bet or fold' strat will work well for all positions MP to SB, some hands simply do better as calls in most spots even against tough opponents. I'm thinking particularly of hands like TT-77, but in some spots you can add AQ to that list. You don't really want to be 3-bet/folding hands that do so well in single-raised pots.
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08-31-2017 , 07:51 PM
^ Great advice from Arty.

My advice is try it and adjust accordingly.
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08-31-2017 , 11:34 PM
Thanks guys. I'm trying to experiment now. I noticed that at micros people play horribly in 3bet pots so I wanna play more of them.
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09-01-2017 , 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by cookedfish
What do you think about almost not having a calling range (except when defending the big blind). What do you think about having strategy where you mostly 3bet or fold except maybe pairs? So you would always have a lead with position? For 6max.

I think it depends on the range your range but overall, in my opinion,I think this is not a very practical strategy...attentive players will pick up on that pretty quickly and they would test you first... if found incompetent enough, that strategy would be very easy to exploit.
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09-01-2017 , 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by cookedfish
I noticed that at micros people play horribly in 3bet pots......
Exaggerate much? Please explain in detail how you came to this conclusion over how many hands. Is it a ton of people, or just a few? Do they call too much or fold too much? Bluff too much or call down too light?

I wouldn't even say that in the micros people play horribly any more. [period]

Occasionally you run into a maniac or a weak-tight-extrodinaire..... but isn't the general population a bit better than you are stating?
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09-01-2017 , 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by King Spew
Exaggerate much? Please explain in detail how you came to this conclusion over how many hands. Is it a ton of people, or just a few? Do they call too much or fold too much? Bluff too much or call down too light?

I wouldn't even say that in the micros people play horribly any more. [period]

Occasionally you run into a maniac or a weak-tight-extrodinaire..... but isn't the general population a bit better than you are stating?
Sorry I don't have any stats (can I find it in Pokertracker?), but that's a feeling I have after playing 40k hands at 13bb/100 winrate at zoom. And I play horribly and most of my profit came from people going loco in 3bets pots. At least that's a feeling I have.
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09-02-2017 , 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by cookedfish
And I play horribly and most of my profit came from people going loco in 3bets pots. At least that's a feeling I have.
It's funny how the largest pots you play when you win come from where there's more than one raise preflop. Try looking at the largest pots you lose and see if that bizarre connection takes place there as well
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