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Old 07-07-2018, 05:20 PM   #26
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Re: this hand is still bothering me

LAG = loose aggressive.
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Old 07-07-2018, 05:24 PM   #27
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It’s totally irrelevant if he had KK or 72o though. The only question is if hero has 42% equity to call the shove and the answer to that is ‘probably not’.
Yeah agree
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Old 07-08-2018, 01:13 AM   #28
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forgive my ignorance, but lags?
Loose-aggressive. Play too many hands preflop and bet aggressively post-flop.
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Old 07-08-2018, 03:31 PM   #29
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Loose-aggressive. Play too many hands preflop and bet aggressively post-flop.
Not true. Someone that plays too many hands preflop is some type of fish. A LAG is a type of regular and probably playing close to GTO preflop.
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Old 07-08-2018, 07:42 PM   #30
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LAG = loose aggressive.
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Old 07-08-2018, 11:05 PM   #31
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Re: this hand is still bothering me

A bet in your position has to expect a re-pop. If you can't call it I wouldn't make that bet to begin with. Most calling your raise have AT beat, any1 with ace rag is folding, so you're gambling for blinds or to hit your 10. Your ace is outkicked most of the time. I would have just called the BB, if your A hit you gain some leverage by getting calls from mid pairs.
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Old 07-09-2018, 01:36 AM   #32
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Not true. Someone that plays too many hands preflop is some type of fish. A LAG is a type of regular and probably playing close to GTO preflop.
"Too many" is just an opinion coming from someone who tends to play tighter pre-flop (a TAG); it's not built into the definition. I guess the best way to describe a LAG is to compare it to a TAG. A LAG opens more hands preflop than a TAG.

Would you say a LAG opens around a 22% range UTG and progressively wider as he approaches the button, while a TAG opens more like a 6% range UTG and less progressively wider as he approaches the button?

I'm not sure a LAG (as opposed to a TAG) is the same thing as GTO. A lot depends on table dynamics. You can be playing LAG or TAG and actually be playing sub-optimally given table conditions. The important thing is to adjust appropriately.

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Old 07-09-2018, 03:22 AM   #33
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I'm not sure a LAG (as opposed to a TAG) is the same thing as GTO. A lot depends on table dynamics. You can be playing LAG or TAG and actually be playing sub-optimally given table conditions. The important thing is to adjust appropriately.
I said opens close to GTO not the same as GTO. LAG or TAG is irrelevant. Your stats should vary based on you getting opening hands in your range in the right spots. On one table you might look like a nit, the next a TAG, the next a LAG; all while playing identical ranges. Over a large enough sample though, you would probably get labeled a "sLAG" if you are opening the right ranges.
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Old 07-09-2018, 08:34 AM   #34
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LAG/TAG has nothing to do with GTO, but if you look at the opening ranges of someone trying to play GTO, you would probably label him as LAG and not TAG.

If you look at calling ranges postflop, what’s labeled ‘good’ (as in close to GTO) today might have been mocked as ‘calling station’ ten years ago.
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Old 07-09-2018, 10:38 AM   #35
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Re: this hand is still bothering me

The way I used the term lag was referring to opponents behind me that are likely to 3 bet often, causing me to fold my equity.

There are preflop lags and postflop lags.
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