Playing 1/3 at a local casino, effective stack is 88$ I'm in the SB with around $150 after buying in for $200. Table is 10 handed I'm dealt ATo I don't remember the suits as this was quite a while ago. 3 callers and it comes to me. I raise to $10 and the BB shoves for $88 action folds to me.

What is the proper call here? I've been thinking two things. First, I don't have to face anymore bets so maybe I call and hope for the best. But, I'm also thinking that ATo isn't the best hand to chase with and I'm probably behind already. Back then I didn't know about equity and things like that, I was only playing for 6-8 months at that time in a home game. The BB told me what he had, allegedly. But I'll hold that for later in the discussion.

Well if you put him on 77 to AA and include AKs AQs AJs and AKo he is a 64% favorite.

Didn't even read the thread yet and my response was "fold pre".

Having read it, what was the goal making it $10? I don't even care what happened after that because this is the decision you need to focus on.

You are getting about 1.25 to 1 to hit a 2 to 1 shot so you are - Ev

Not knowing exactly what I was doing and hoping to fold out some lower connectors?

I mean there are 3 limptards so there is like $13 in the pot and you make it $7 more while everyone else is in position against you. You're not going to fold out anything. People are getting close to 3:1 on a call.

I understand that now. At the time, I didn't.

In the meanwhile you're getting 1,37:1 on a call which means you need 42% equity to call. Unless he is somehow shoving hands like KJo you're not going to get there. But I guess he told you he had two eights.

He told me he had kings. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, but that's what he told me.

Then he had two kings like 95%+ of the time. Almost nobody is confident enough to lie during the hand.

He told me after the hand. I should have been more clear.

Even then, people don't lie.

I have. I lie to my friends in a .25/.50 home game

What are the other players between you and the button like?

A-10o is such a difficult hand to play post-flop as a beginner that I recommend simply folding it preflop every time, from every position. I am not exactly a beginner anymore and yet I still fold it nearly always. And you should never call a raise with it, and certainly not an all in from a short stack.

If you really want to raise pre, you need to make it bigger. There's $13 in the pot when the action reaches you, so you need to make it at least that amount, or no one will fold. I think you'd generally do better in that spot by overlimping, or just folding.
When villain jams, you should be snap-folding. Unless villain is going mental with a pocket pair lower than TT (e.g. you're almost flipping with 99), you're either worse than flipping (e.g. vs QQ), or you're crushed (by AK-AJ), and you're not getting good odds on a call.
Just generally speaking, ATo is a horrible hand to be calling all in pre unless you have less than 15bb.

You might not be a beginner anymore, but if you can’t profitably play hands like ATo from the BU vs. a loose CO open, BB vs. BU open or BB vs. SB open (let alone opening yourself from LP), you certainly have a postflop leak.

Not to hijack the original thread (says someone about to do just that), but I did say "nearly always," so there are occasions where I will open A-10o in LP or overlimp behind a couple others. I mostly play 1/3 where many Vs do not adjust opening ranges by position, so 3! A-10o in the situations you mentioned could be suicidal.

feel free to hijack, I've had my question answered. I'd love to hear some new discussions and learn a few things

My preflop play here depends on the players behind.

3 limps to me with nits behind? I’m raising to $15.

With lags behind? I’m folding.

There are many situations between those two extremes that depend on where the 3 bet is likely to come from, and how many callers I expect to be in the mix and how they might react vs a 3 bet.

Usually it’s a mix of player type behind, but the dominant factor remains the 3 bet frequency behind. This is actually closely related to the reason we’re supposed to be very tight from early position; the more players there are behind the bigger the chances are that someone picks up a good hand.

I prefer a complete pre, but having raised would probably fold. LRR is usually a pretty strong hand.

pretty much a complete 100% of time in this situation

In the casino and after the hand, I usually lie about my hand if I even answer the question in an informative manner.

It’s totally irrelevant if he had KK or 72o though. The only question is if hero has 42% equity to call the shove and the answer to that is ‘probably not’.

forgive my ignorance, but lags?