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Hand Review: Unlucky or Bad Play? Hand Review: Unlucky or Bad Play?

08-10-2018 , 04:37 AM
Winamax Poker - CashGame - Holdem no limit (0.05€/0.10€)
Table: 'Aachen 06' 5-max (real money) Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: xzonimx (13.28€)
Seat 2: _anytwo_ (10€)
Seat 3: gege7977 (9.60€)
Seat 4: Hero (10.41€)
Seat 5: CrazyC4rd (17.60€)
*** ANTE/BLINDS ***
gege7977 posts small blind 0.05€
Hero posts big blind 0.10€
Dealt to Hero[Qs As]
*** PRE-FLOP ***
CrazyC4rd folds
xzonimx raises 0.20€ to 0.30€
_anytwo_ folds
gege7977 folds
Hero raises 0.90€ to 1.20€
xzonimx calls 0.90€
*** FLOP *** [9d 2h Ts]
Hero bets 1.65€
xzonimx calls 1.65€
*** TURN *** [9d 2h Ts][Qh]
Hero bets 3.80€
xzonimx calls 3.80€
*** RIVER *** [9d 2h Ts Qh][8s]
Hero bets 3.76€ and is all-in
xzonimx calls 3.76€
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero shows [Qs As] (One pair : Queens)
xzonimx shows [Th Jh] (Straight Queen high)
xzonimx collected 19.67€ from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 19.67€ | Rake 1.20€
Board: [9d 2h Ts Qh 8s]
Seat 1: xzonimx showed [Th Jh] and won 19.67€ with Straight Queen high
Seat 4: Hero (big blind) showed [Qs As] and lost with One pair : Queens
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08-10-2018 , 08:14 AM
Don't post results, we know it's a bad beat story from the title

Don't mindlessly click 2/3 pot buttons, look at the stacks and what's left to play for, betting basically half the effective stacks on the turn is lol, although he has such a strong draw that he's calling a jam anyway

Convert your hands
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08-10-2018 , 01:13 PM
You overplayed your hand. Bet smaller on the flop, and probably check the turn now you have SDV. The last thing you want to do is bloat the pot and then have to put the rest in on one of the worst possible river cards.
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08-10-2018 , 01:22 PM
Getting 3 streets of value with TPTK is....ambitious.
More often than not you will be beat.

Small hand...small pot.
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08-11-2018 , 10:34 AM
Thanks guys... all very useful info.
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08-11-2018 , 11:14 AM
agree with the other guys your bet sizing is to big for the hand you have.
IMO your turn and river bet sizing was Really bad.
You are losing to straights, sets and 2 pair and your villain was showing some strength each step of the way.
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08-12-2018 , 07:23 AM
Wet board with caller
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08-15-2018 , 12:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dmansoc
Winamax Poker - CashGame - Holdem no limit (0.05€/0.10€)
Table: 'Aachen 06' 5-max (real money) Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: xzonimx (13.28€)
Seat 2: _anytwo_ (10€)
Seat 3: gege7977 (9.60€)
Seat 4: Hero (10.41€)
Seat 5: CrazyC4rd (17.60€)
*** ANTE/BLINDS ***
gege7977 posts small blind 0.05€
Hero posts big blind 0.10€
Dealt to Hero[Qs As]
*** PRE-FLOP ***
CrazyC4rd folds
xzonimx raises 0.20€ to 0.30€
_anytwo_ folds
gege7977 folds
Hero raises 0.90€ to 1.20€
xzonimx calls 0.90€
*** FLOP *** [9d 2h Ts]
Hero bets 1.65€
xzonimx calls 1.65€
*** TURN *** [9d 2h Ts][Qh]
Hero bets 3.80€
xzonimx calls 3.80€
*** RIVER *** [9d 2h Ts Qh][8s]
Hero bets 3.76€ and is all-in
xzonimx calls 3.76€
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero shows [Qs As] (One pair : Queens)
xzonimx shows [Th Jh] (Straight Queen high)
xzonimx collected 19.67€ from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 19.67€ | Rake 1.20€
Board: [9d 2h Ts Qh 8s]
Seat 1: xzonimx showed [Th Jh] and won 19.67€ with Straight Queen high
Seat 4: Hero (big blind) showed [Qs As] and lost with One pair : Queens
1) If you aren't going to convert your hands, then just type them out. This is nearly unreadable.

2) Preflop: Fine

3) Flop: What is the point of betting so big here? If you're just range betting, then bet way smaller than this. Like 0.8 into 2.45. Also pay attention to stacks, you now have 7.56 left with 5.75 on the turn.

4) Turn: I mean if you're gonna ram in on one of the worst river cards anyway, you might as well do it yourself and try to charge KQ/QJ/JT/J9s/etc the maximum. I'm not sure if checking or shoving is better (since shoving looks like a massive overplay), but we've kind of put ourselves in this situation on the flop by blowing out his weak hands with a big flop sizing and setting up an awkward stack. If we bet 0.8 above like we should have, the pot would be 4.05 and we'd have 8.41 left, an after a normal bet on the turn of like 3, we can opt to check fold river at 3:1.

But yeah, while I agree with the other posters that we've overplayed this hand, I would say that this hand went to hell on the flop. Don't just click 2/3rds pot. Understand how ranges and stack depth can allow for different sizes.
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