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Hand analyse early stage TT MP Hand analyse early stage TT MP

06-23-2019 , 11:30 AM
Winamax - 20/40 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 149.87 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
UTG: 2.1 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 66.67, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 3)
UTG+1: 74.62 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)
Hero (MP): 82.02 BB
MP+1: 73.25 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
CO: 71.92 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
BTN: 73.67 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB: 72.3 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)

8 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has T T

fold, UTG+1 calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 5 BB, fold, CO calls 5 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 4 BB, UTG+1 calls 4 BB

Flop: (21.5 BB, 4 players) 9 6 Q
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: (21.5 BB, 4 players) 4
BB checks, UTG+1 bets 1 BB, Hero raises to 5 BB, fold, BB calls 5 BB, UTG+1 calls 4 BB

River: (36.5 BB, 3 players) K
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

Hero shows T T (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 77%, Flop 87%, Turn 93%)
BB shows 9 K (Two Pair, Kings and Nines)
(Pre 12%, Flop 6%, Turn 4%)
UTG+1 shows K 9 (Two Pair, Kings and Nines)
(Pre 11%, Flop 6%, Turn 4%)
BB wins 18.25 BB
UTG+1 wins 18.25 BB




So today and yesterday I have been trying to reduce my VPIP and keep the same different in PFR so like -4%
My VPIP for today and yesterday is around 30% and PFR around 25% . I am having problem with sizing and PFR , because when I raise 2.2/2.5 everyone call , I thought that a x5 my range would be ATs+ AQo+ TT+ , but the CO and bb call I think limit range K9o and some suited connectors.
utg+1 call so I think he has Axs and high pocket pair.

I think I made a mistake checking the flop , when utg raise turn I 3bet I think it's 3bet light and then they bb utg+1 call and I check river because I thought they made a straight or flush with ace , I think maybe if I bet pot turn could they fold?

Last edited by Zacthefish; 06-23-2019 at 11:46 AM.
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06-23-2019 , 01:09 PM
I also have problems with players that play very lose , I have problem to narrow their range , players like limp call raises with Q4s and J3s being in a multiway 4 players.
Or utg that call 67o then call a raise 3bb from MP after the BB called the raise.
I feel like those players have very wide ranges and often I fold the turn if they 2barrels and the odds aren't good.
In my tables in microstakes MTT half of the players have a VIP of 50+ and insanely low PFR like -30-40 . So they only raise premium hands , so I don't know what to do because when it come to postflop and that the board is dry or monotone I'm afraid to Cbet

Last edited by Zacthefish; 06-23-2019 at 01:18 PM.
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06-23-2019 , 01:21 PM
What currency is this 20/40 you speak of?

Hand looks fine. Could maybe raise a bit more on the turn

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I think I made a mistake checking the flop , when utg raise turn I 3bet I think it's 3bet light and then they bb utg+1 call and I check river because I thought they made a straight or flush with ace , I think maybe if I bet pot turn could they fold?
What? UTG bet, you raised, there is no 3 bet at any point in the hand
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06-23-2019 , 01:47 PM
Oh yea my bad still new to the world of poker .
It's MTT 25cts , 20/40 are the blinds
Yea I think I need to be more aggresive 1/4 pot is not enough.
Just checked my stats my AFq is not a lot as I'm afraid to bluff because I feel like they can call everything.
Early stages and even at the bubble they like to call everything and flip , tilting me to get owned by a 72 VPIP and 12PFR out of 38 hands I really don't know how to play against this
I have 4 more tournament today so I will try to 2 barell and 3 barell more
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06-23-2019 , 01:47 PM
Turn is bad everything else is fine.

Treat tiny bets as checks, if you want to raise (read bet due to treating tiny bets as checks) then your sizing is far too small. Do I think there is much point betting TT here 4 way against likely terrible players yeah, probably.
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06-23-2019 , 01:56 PM
What should I have done bet pot or 2/3pot?
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06-23-2019 , 02:31 PM
I played LAG and got owned , he didn't have any blocker I don't know what I did wrong I wanted to bluff the flush the board being super wet then the 8 I was like he can't call me here so I shove 4/3 pot but he doesn't fold , how about my sizing was it right?
It was early stage so I didn't think he was gonna call that easily

Winamax - 20/40 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 113.85 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
UTG+1: 74.57 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
MP: 73.7 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
CO: 73.32 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
BTN: 118.8 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
Hero (SB): 71.17 BB
BB: 74.57 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)

7 players post ante of 0.13 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.37 BB) Hero has 5 T

fold, fold, fold, CO calls 1 BB, fold, Hero calls 0.5 BB, BB checks

Flop: (3.87 BB, 3 players) 9 Q T
Hero bets 4 BB, BB calls 4 BB, fold

Turn: (11.87 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero bets 15 BB, BB calls 15 BB

River: (41.87 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero bets 51.05 BB and is all-in, BB raises to 54.45 BB and is all-in

Hero shows 5 T (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 32%, Flop 5%, Turn 0%)
BB shows 9 9 (Three of a Kind, Nines)
(Pre 68%, Flop 95%, Turn 100%)
BB wins 147.37 BB

Last edited by Zacthefish; 06-23-2019 at 02:37 PM.
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06-23-2019 , 03:09 PM
Pre meh, with antes I guess maybe, but that is a stupidly scary board. Betting the flop as a bluff is fine (if it is smaller), but once called there is nothing you beat. Stop betting. Probably safest to fold pre if you have no idea how to play this sort of hand post flop.
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06-23-2019 , 03:22 PM
Ok I'm going to watch petrangelo video on post flop , I'm tilted I play so lose like I can't play worst than that I try to bluff but bluff like **** busted early on everything today , I feel like having negreanu masterclass and petrangelo course doesn't help. I need to rewatch post flop vids

Last edited by Zacthefish; 06-23-2019 at 03:33 PM.
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06-23-2019 , 03:35 PM
Zac, try.... Not Bluffing.

You may be surprised by the results.

Beginners think that poker is all about bluffing. It's not. To bluff, you need the experience to know when and more importantly, who to bluff.
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06-23-2019 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by King Spew
Zac, try.... Not Bluffing.

You may be surprised by the results.

Beginners think that poker is all about bluffing. It's not. To bluff, you need the experience to know when and more importantly, who to bluff.
Thankns for taking the time to answer , yes I'm studying petrangelo Cbet on different boards got another MTT in like 30min will play tights and almost only the nuts
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06-24-2019 , 08:07 AM
Ok so I played more tight made itm 151/5000 , make like one bluff only this one (it was a super turbo)
I to limp fold (idk if it exist)


Winamax - 100/200 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+1: 16.72 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
CO: 70.97 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
BTN: 30.98 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
Hero (SB): 17.52 BB
BB: 50.97 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
UTG: 31.53 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 100.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
UTG+1: 14.87 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
MP: 10.1 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)

8 players post ante of 0.13 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has J 9

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 1 BB, fold, BTN calls 1 BB, Hero calls 0.5 BB, BB checks

Flop: (6 BB, 5 players) 9 K 3
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP+1 checks, BTN checks

Turn: (6 BB, 5 players) 2
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP+1 checks, BTN checks

River: (6 BB, 5 players) K
Hero bets 6 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold

Hero wins 12 BB


utg and mp+1 limp so I limp , I don't know what's utg range , for MP+1 I think his range was Axo or some suited J8s K5s Q8s or suited connector .

I check because thing some of them got a K or flush draw and at the river I bet pot
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06-24-2019 , 11:05 AM
That's probably not a bluff
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06-24-2019 , 01:08 PM
I’d call the turn with TT from op.
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06-24-2019 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
That's probably not a bluff
There's no probably about it.
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