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Is this an example of overvaluing AA? Is this an example of overvaluing AA?

10-23-2020 , 07:09 PM
2NL FAST (6 max)

BTN: $6.27 (313.5 bb)
SB: $1.71 (85.5 bb)
BB: $2.00 (100 bb)
Hero (UTG): $2.97 (148.5 bb)
MP: $2.00 (100 bb)
CO: $2.13 (106.5 bb)

SB posts $0.01,
BB posts $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03)
Hero has Ac Ah

Hero raises to $0.05,
2 folds,
BTN calls $0.05,
2 folds

Flop: ($0.13, 2 players) 9s 6c Tc

Hero bets $0.09,
BTN calls $0.09

Turn: ($0.31, 2 players) Jc

Hero bets $0.20,
BTN calls $0.20

River: ($0.71, 2 players) 2h

Hero bets $0.46,
BTN calls $0.46

Final Board: 9s 6c Tc Jc 2h

Hero shows Ac Ah: (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 87%, Flop 81%, Turn 18%)

BTN shows Qs Kc: (Straight, King High)
(Pre 13%, Flop 19%, Turn 82%)


It seems to be a pattern where I bet with top pair or an over pair and at showdown they show a really strong hand. Should I be calming down with hands like this? Should I be looking at the three clubs, the 78 and QK possible hands and calming down on the turn or river? Or is that just being nitty and losing value over the long term?



Apropos of nothing, AA 7 times in 400 hands and down -16bb tonight.
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10-23-2020 , 08:32 PM
Yeah we're getting called with straights and flushes a lot here + sets/2p that hated that turn as well and folding out his weaker hands. Occasionally we'll get looked up with KJ, QJ but way fewer combos obv. I'd like to have some kind of a read to know if there's more value to be had.

Most boards aren't going to have these runouts with AA so I wouldn't slow down just for the sake of seeing monsters under the bed... but in this case, it's pretty wet.
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10-24-2020 , 09:13 AM
unless fast players are a lot less sticky then normal 2nl players no you did not over play your hand at least not from your an exploitive stand point. They average 2nl calling range is really wide and will include pretty much any draw. well they might fold back doors some times. As well as top bottom and middle pair and some pockets in-between. The turn is a little concerning as the FD got there as well as 87 and KQ. Still betting though but i might go with 1/2 pot. probably check calling river though.
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10-24-2020 , 10:27 AM
Preflop and flop are fine.

OTT just check and call a bet. Based on villain's call OTF, the turn card hits his range hard, but you don't hate giving the free card it if it gets checked behind because you hold the A

OTR, I check to keep villain's bluffs in and probably make a crying call unless he shoves. JT (which you now beat) might bet there, but probably will not shove.

It's 2NL. In general, you make money by taking advantage of people who can't fold an overpair or TP, so you don't want to be that guy.
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10-24-2020 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Kurn, son of Mogh
Preflop and flop are fine.

OTT just check and call a bet. Based on villain's call OTF, the turn card hits his range hard, but you don't hate giving the free card it if it gets checked behind because you hold the A

OTR, I check to keep villain's bluffs in and probably make a crying call unless he shoves. JT (which you now beat) might bet there, but probably will not shove.

It's 2NL. In general, you make money by taking advantage of people who can't fold an overpair or TP, so you don't want to be that guy.
The board didn't pair, so we don't beat JT on the river.

I would check the turn with my entire range. This is probably the best card in the deck for the flop caller's range.
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10-24-2020 , 02:40 PM
Hi,

I am not sure about the Turn and River, but Flop is great I think. Your betsizing made villain pay 41% of the pot with King high, and even if he thought you had a low PP, so that a Q or K on the board would make his hand the winning hand, he is still making a huge mistake here. What did he think you had, when raising to 2.5xBB from UTG?! Then, as I said, calling the flop for 41% of the pot, with 14 outs at max (and runner-runner Flush-draw), is weak in my eyes.
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10-24-2020 , 03:34 PM
I think you played your hand pretty well. Even your bet sizing could be higher on turn and river. If the villain re-raised you on the river then you might think about folding according to your story with the villain.

Sometimes you hate life and continue to play in poker
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10-24-2020 , 06:13 PM
Thanks everyone for the analysis.

I think I agree with the check/call on the turn and river but I do still have a couple of questions. Is an 8 or Q on the river cause to give up? I'm thinking yes but in the back of my mind I'm also aware that that would be a good card for villain to bluff on.

Also is it still a check/call if I don't have the club? Again I'm thinking yes on the turn at least but on the river too?
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10-26-2020 , 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by browni3141
The board didn't pair, so we don't beat JT on the river.

I would check the turn with my entire range. This is probably the best card in the deck for the flop caller's range.
Duh. What was I looking at
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