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Originally Posted by QuickTwist
Thanks so mush for the link guys, I read the whole thing and it is defanitley a lot to digest. If there are these type of discussions going on theres no way I wont get better!
So thanks Doug for introducing the thread as well as some of the ways it applies to NL. And thank you Dunna for providing the right link as well as your insights into how applies to NL. Also want to thank mikes007 and Ozi for their thought as well. It was a good read for sure; I leared a lot.
So what kind of range can we give to Villian in NL hand assuming it was raised to 20 and he calls?
I think I'd give him something like:
JJ-22,AQs-A2s,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,T9s,98s,AQo-AJo,KQo
basically pairs, suited broadways, suited aces, a couple of suited connectors and unsuited broadways.
This changes a bit depending if he would 4bet JJ or AQ, and he might want to play a few more suited connectors or possibly he might call the 3bet with AA/KK sometimes in order to strengthen his calling range.
Against this range, we are an 83/17 favorite. So the question really becomes a question of whether we do better to cbet in order to get some value from his worse Aces and maybe JJ or TT, or whether we do better off by checking back the flop, trying to induce action from worse on later streets, and also incidentally saving some money when he has us coolered.
It might actually be ok in this spot to not have a cbetting range. Or if we want to cbet and be balanced, we can cbet 1/2 pot with KQs and black 99(5 combos of bluff) and AA,AK (15 combos of value), and check back the rest of our range. This, in spite of the fact that "omg A72 you HAVE to cbet this board all the time"