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Old 07-08-2018, 02:54 AM   #1
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Difficulty multi tabling PLO

Im looking for advice from anyone who multi tables PLO, or even NL.

I am a fairly experienced online player. I am relatively new to 6-max PLO, my background is HUPLO. Whenever I pull up TWO tables of 6 max PLO I feel overwhelmed and I start making sub-par decisions (when there is action on both tables).

Currently I feel as though I cannot make the right decisions unless I am playing a single table.

My goal is to someday play 3 tables of 6MX PLO, and perhaps even 4.

Does anyone have any advice on how to build up? If you do multi table PLO was this something you could do from the start?

I feel like PLO, more than NL, requires more thought on every street. I wonder if experienced PLo multi tablers feel like they are distributing their attention across multiple tables and making a compromise in order to play more, or if they feel like they can make the same quality of decisions across four tables as one table. Maybe someone can shed some light on this.

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Old 07-08-2018, 01:23 PM   #2
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Re: Difficulty multi tabling PLO

I don't feel too much of a loss until 8 tables or more, but I have a pretty extensive background in six max plo.
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Old 07-08-2018, 06:27 PM   #3
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Re: Difficulty multi tabling PLO

I was going to say just play one table until you get your bearings, but I noticed you said you were experienced.

Like any other skill, it is something that should be trainable through practice. I am surprised you can not handle two tables if you claim to have significant experience playing HUPLO. I should think two tables should be easy, but if it's not, just play two tables until it's no longer difficult, then try three.

If part of your difficulty is because of inexperience specifically with the situations you encounter in 6-max that are absent HU, then I'd start with one table until you feel like all pre-flop decisions are standard, and most flop decisions are fairly easy. Once you can effortlessly play early streets then try multi-tabling.

At two six max tables I imagine you'd mostly be folding or only have one table to focus on at a time.
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Old 07-08-2018, 07:43 PM   #4
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Re: Difficulty multi tabling PLO

I did research some time ago on this to provide a fairly simple approach for a math-based answer to multi-tabling quantity. It basically formalizes the usual suggestion to try different table quantities and see which one does best. Here is a repeat of a previous posting.

I define a table effectiveness factor (TEF) as the fraction of win rate per hour you retain each time you increase the number of tables you play by one (0<TEF<=1.0). Then with a normalized win rate per hour of 1, the normalized win rate per hour for n tables is n*(TEF^(n-1)).

To estimate TEF get the win rate per hour for playing 1 table, say W1 obtained over several days perhaps. Do that for several other table quantities, so you have W1, Wn1, Wn2 etc.. Then calculate TEF for each n as

TEFn= [(Wn/W1)/n]^(1/(n-1))

Order the TEF’s and choose the middle one (the median) as your estimate.

Example: You have data for 4 table quantities (too small a sample but okay for this example). You know from tracking data that for one table your WR/hr = 10. In several sessions, you played two tables and WR2/hr = 18.5. For another few sessions, you played 4 tables with WR4/hr = 29. For 8 tables win rate/hr was WR8/hr = 30. The corresponding TEFs using the formula shown above are as follows: 92.5%, 89.8%, 86.9%. The median value (rounded) is 90%. This type calculation should be done periodically for it is likely that you will improve your table effectiveness as you gain experience or perhaps the playing environment has changed.

Now once you have an estimated TEF, use the following chart (with interpolation) to determine how many tables you should play. Instead you can use the formula to see which n maximizes your win rate.

Table Effectiveness Factor Optimal Number of Tables
0.95 19
0.90 9
0.85 6
0.80 4
0.75 3
0.50 1

The model is simple and subject to question but it’s a start. Also, another factor to consider is that if more tables make you much less effective, then you might be better off playing fewer tables at a higher level.
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Old 07-09-2018, 08:38 AM   #5
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Re: Difficulty multi tabling PLO

That model is really cool, never thought about something like that.

I guess the relevance of it massively increased since (exponentially growing) rakeback isn’t really a thing anymore?
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Old 07-09-2018, 09:48 AM   #6
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Re: Difficulty multi tabling PLO

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That model is really cool, never thought about something like that.

I guess the relevance of it massively increased since (exponentially growing) rakeback isn’t really a thing anymore?
I also have a “never thought about that”. Adding a rakeback factor would of course make multi-tabling more attractive and the model more complex.
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Old 07-09-2018, 06:15 PM   #7
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Re: Difficulty multi tabling PLO

Once you take out relatively new PLO 6 max player out of your situation your question will answer itself..

But probably fold more would be a good start : )
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