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01-20-2019 , 03:05 PM
Are there any other books out there similar to Hansen's Every Hand Revealed? Books in which the author narrates his experience at a major NLHE tournament, detailing every hand that he played?

Thanks.
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01-20-2019 , 03:18 PM
That's what I'd look at, but I'm guessing it's not what the OP wants if he's wanting a whole book on one donkament, I know that apestyles' section was primarily from one donkament in one of the books though
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01-20-2019 , 10:42 PM
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01-20-2019 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SpewingIsMyMove
I like it. Thank you.
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01-20-2019 , 11:27 PM
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That's what I'd look at, but I'm guessing it's not what the OP wants if he's wanting a whole book on one donkament, I know that apestyles' section was primarily from one donkament in one of the books though
Why do you say "donkament" instead of "tournament"?
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01-20-2019 , 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Backdoor
Why do you say "donkament" instead of "tournament"?
A donkament is typically a higher variance multi table tournament, with faster levels and lower buy-ins, attracting newer players, and not really structured to favor skill players as much. Not sure why 64 associated a donkament with your question, other than the fact that most new players start off playing these types of tournaments first
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01-21-2019 , 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by SpewingIsMyMove
A donkament is typically a higher variance multi table tournament, with faster levels and lower buy-ins, attracting newer players, and not really structured to favor skill players as much. Not sure why 64 associated a donkament with your question, other than the fact that most new players start off playing these types of tournaments first
They're all donkaments
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01-21-2019 , 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Backdoor
Why do you say "donkament" instead of "tournament"?
In the long run, skill dominates luck in poker.

There is no long run in a tournament, thus luck plays a bigger factor than in cash games.
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01-21-2019 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Kurn, son of Mogh
In the long run, skill dominates luck in poker.

There is no long run in a tournament, thus luck plays a bigger factor than in cash games.
What?????
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01-21-2019 , 01:03 PM
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What?????
What's your definition of "long run?" 1,000 hands? Tournaments are short run samples. More variance.
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01-21-2019 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Kurn, son of Mogh
What's your definition of "long run?" 1,000 hands? Tournaments are short run samples. More variance.
No, "long run" is tens of thousands of hands. I think this comparison is pretty disingenuous for a few reasons. First, one tournament start-to-end is often a couple hundred hands, though of course we can and usually do bust much earlier. In that sense, it's "short run." But a lot of people play cash sessions that are only a few hundred hands long, and some people hit the casino for a couple hours and see less than 100 hands live. Tournaments have a long run, it's just about playing more than one tournament (just like "long run" in cash is about playing more than one cash session).

But the variance in tournaments compared to cash has basically nothing to do with that. The reason tournament samples have so much more variance than cash is pretty obviously because of payout structures. In a Sunday Million you can have a range of results from losing your buyin to winning over 500 buyins. In cash there's simply no way to replicate the upside of huge tournament scores, just like there's no replication of losing 85% of the tournaments you play. But this has basically nothing to do with one tournament being a few hundred hands max.

I play hyper husngs which have maybe 10 or 15 hands per game on average, but I have much less variance than mtt players even though we play many more hands per mtt than that.
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01-22-2019 , 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Duncelanas
No, "long run" is tens of thousands of hands. I think this comparison is pretty disingenuous for a few reasons. First, one tournament start-to-end is often a couple hundred hands, though of course we can and usually do bust much earlier. In that sense, it's "short run." But a lot of people play cash sessions that are only a few hundred hands long, and some people hit the casino for a couple hours and see less than 100 hands live. Tournaments have a long run, it's just about playing more than one tournament (just like "long run" in cash is about playing more than one cash session).

But the variance in tournaments compared to cash has basically nothing to do with that. The reason tournament samples have so much more variance than cash is pretty obviously because of payout structures. In a Sunday Million you can have a range of results from losing your buyin to winning over 500 buyins. In cash there's simply no way to replicate the upside of huge tournament scores, just like there's no replication of losing 85% of the tournaments you play. But this has basically nothing to do with one tournament being a few hundred hands max.

I play hyper husngs which have maybe 10 or 15 hands per game on average, but I have much less variance than mtt players even though we play many more hands per mtt than that.
I don't disagree with you completely. I was answering as to why non-tournament players use the term, which is probably based on treating each tournament individually.

Tournaments and cash are essentially different animals, and cash players tend to scoff at tournaments.
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