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03-15-2018 , 02:04 AM
I've been playing for about 15 years but playing properly for about 4 months. In these 4 months I've been spending about 6 hours a day divided between playing, reading and watching poker. I'm confident in my beginner ability showing a consistent profit online and in home games.

When I started 4 months ago I bought the following books:
Play poker like the pros - Phil Hellmuth
Harrington on hold'em vol 1 - Dan Harrington
Phil Gordon's little green book - Phil Gordon

Then last week, having read the above list twice, I bought the following:
The theory of poker - David Sklansky
Hold'em poker for advanced players - David Sklansky

I didn't get super system just because I'd read that it's very outdated however I've recently read comments on this site saying that the above list is also outdated and to buy books from this year. Is this the case? Should I disregard these classics and get brand new books or are these still the best out there? Also, what other books would you suggest?
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03-15-2018 , 02:17 AM
The Grinders Manual and Janda's latest book are probably the best two if you're playing 6-max cash. I think Harringtons 6-max book holds up quite well but I haven't read it.

Holdem Poker for Advanced Players is a fixed limit book by the way, it's very outdated too.
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03-15-2018 , 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by The Imp
Holdem Poker for Advanced Players is a fixed limit book by the way, it's very outdated too.
what has changed in minbet poker to make this so?
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03-15-2018 , 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by The Imp
The Grinders Manual and Janda's latest book
Is that "applications of no limit hold'em"?
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03-15-2018 , 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
what has changed in minbet poker to make this so?
The book was originally published in 1988.

You don't need to make snarky comments in every BQ thread, let one go once in a while.

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Originally Posted by Glomb175
Is that "applications of no limit hold'em"?
No that's his first one. Latest one is "No Limit Holdem For Advanced Players".
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03-15-2018 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
what has changed in minbet poker to make this so?
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Originally Posted by The Imp
The book was originally published in 1988.
You did not answer his question....which was valid. (FYI, I play HE)

The best start for limit players is Small Stakes Hold Em Winning Big With Expert Play
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03-15-2018 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by King Spew
You did not answer his question....which was valid. (FYI, I play HE)

The best start for limit players is Small Stakes Hold Em Winning Big With Expert Play
I played fixed limit for a living until a couple of years ago, even Stox's book contains outdated advice. Sure HPFAP will have parts that are still relevant (the same can be said for most poker books) but a beginner won't know which parts those are.

SSHE is for games that don't really exist online any more.
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03-20-2018 , 07:25 AM
Jared Tendler - The Mental Game of Poker
Harrington on Hold'em pretty solid basics that I feel is still relevant to the micros at least
The Grinders Manual
The Microstakes Playbook - Blackrain - definitely helped me increase my winrate at the micros
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03-21-2018 , 09:17 PM
You're going to get a nice list of current publications to read from other members here. My recommendation is to read every damn thing you can.

There are some principles that don't change over time.

The more you can hone in and drill your play style to these fundamentals will pay off in the long run.

Theres nothing wrong with taking super system and applying bits and pieces to your style of play. There's nothing wrong with taking Janda's psychology and applying it. You are unique and anything you can get your hands on will make you better'
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03-22-2018 , 03:48 AM
Janda's Applications book, reading those hand examples is a good primer, after one can start to study with the GTO softwares. Janda's 2nd book has much of the preflop strategy, that might make it worth a read, but from most part that 2nd book is very incomplete and offers an incorrect strategy, so only as a supplement it might be read. The rest of the materials for nlh cash are outdated or do not offer anything.
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03-22-2018 , 08:42 AM
I dont know if I buy that "out dated mantra".
I have read Harrington Vol 1 as well as a couple of other books.
I can honestly say I have found useful info and actionable strategys in each book.
IMO poker knowledge is like a data bank. You take info from here info from there
Past experience from games played and you file it away.
After a while you have enough data to form a sound foundation to play off of.
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03-22-2018 , 12:47 PM
might help op a little bit if we sort out which books are for what games rather than just putting up random lists

The Grinders Manual and Janda's books are modern and aimed at online Cash (mostly 6 max)

Harrington Vol 1 is tourney book.

Saying a book is outdated is not mantra, it reflects the realities of the playing environment.

Harringtons Cash Books were written at time when every rec, poor reg and fish stacked off with TP, so pretty much everything was 100% exploitative.

Those days are long gone...at least online. You need to be able to do a little bit more than just bang away at the pot button with your made hands to get by (online) these days.

That's why books like TGM and Janda are way ahead, and why some (not all) of the concepts in old books (like when to cbet) will just burn your moniez.

Op if you are playing 6 max cash online read The Grinders Manual (first) Janda's books (both of them), and Tendlers mindset books (both of them). Don't need to read anything else.

If you are playing live or tourneys ...i've no idea, not my bag these days.
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03-22-2018 , 01:03 PM
Hey op, I'd highly recommend 'Poker Math That Matters' by Owen Gaines. It explains the math of the game in a clear accessible manner. You need to know this to be successful so you can't really go wrong reading it. Gaines also has an excellent book about hand reading.
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03-23-2018 , 08:03 AM
@sharky or anyone else for that matter. I have been playing close to 3 years and I am a decent to good player but not a great player. I always feel there is room to learn.
Which 2 or 3 books would you rec for a guy that plays strictly live at the 1/2 NL to 2/5 NL
Level. I am not that interested in tourney play and have zero interest in online play.
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03-23-2018 , 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by amarri
@sharky or anyone else for that matter. I have been playing close to 3 years and I am a decent to good player but not a great player. I always feel there is room to learn.
Which 2 or 3 books would you rec for a guy that plays strictly live at the 1/2 NL to 2/5 NL
Level. I am not that interested in tourney play and have zero interest in online play.
As I said above you can't go wrong with 'Poker Math That Mstters'. I can't really recommend anything for cash as I play mostly sngs and tourneys
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04-03-2018 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Glomb175
I've been playing for about 15 years but playing properly for about 4 months. In these 4 months I've been spending about 6 hours a day divided between playing, reading and watching poker. I'm confident in my beginner ability showing a consistent profit online and in home games.

When I started 4 months ago I bought the following books:
Play poker like the pros - Phil Hellmuth
Harrington on hold'em vol 1 - Dan Harrington
Phil Gordon's little green book - Phil Gordon

Then last week, having read the above list twice, I bought the following:
The theory of poker - David Sklansky
Hold'em poker for advanced players - David Sklansky

I didn't get super system just because I'd read that it's very outdated however I've recently read comments on this site saying that the above list is also outdated and to buy books from this year. Is this the case? Should I disregard these classics and get brand new books or are these still the best out there? Also, what other books would you suggest?
I just started reading “Theory of Poker” by Sklansky because after a lot of research, that consistently kept coming up as one of the top poker books of all time. How do you like it? What do you think so far?
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