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03-22-2019 , 11:28 PM
Someone help with my line.

5nl on ignition.

Effective stacks 8.08

Button limps
SB (hero) raise to 20c with 87spades
BB fold
Button calls heads up

Flop 3s2dJs

Hero cbet 35c
Button calls

Turn 4c

Hero check
Button bets 50c
Hero raise 2.19 (setting up for river jam)
Button calls

River Ah

Hero jams $5.34
Button calls

Button wins with A7d

Tips appreciated
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03-23-2019 , 12:05 AM
With the turn x/r call you really need to rethink your river bluff
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03-23-2019 , 01:18 PM
Don't iso-raise pre with 8-high OOP vs a whale. You need fold equity to make your bluffs +EV.
I'd be inclined to just overlimp pre and only go for value if I make a hand. Bloating the pot with air vs whales is never gonna be a good strategy. The turn check-raise in this hand is particularly bad. Villain isn't folding Jx or any of the wheel aces (let alone anything better) on that turn. Are you trying to rep A5s/65s/JJ?
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03-23-2019 , 04:46 PM
You should of shoved the turn.
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03-23-2019 , 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
Don't iso-raise pre with 8-high OOP vs a whale. You need fold equity to make your bluffs +EV.
I'd be inclined to just overlimp pre and only go for value if I make a hand. Bloating the pot with air vs whales is never gonna be a good strategy. The turn check-raise in this hand is particularly bad. Villain isn't folding Jx or any of the wheel aces (let alone anything better) on that turn. Are you trying to rep A5s/65s/JJ?
I was thinking about the lines I would want to take with my biggest and smallest hands. My values would be all my sets, AJ, and all my straights. My bluffs would be small missed flushes. I was trying to get bigger flush draws off with a big raise so that my smaller flush would be good. I should never be check raising a small flush draw there? Can't I get 10s, 9s and ax and some weaker jacks off too? That was my reasoning behind the turn raise.
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03-24-2019 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Allin-nothingout
I was thinking about the lines I would want to take with my biggest and smallest hands. My values would be all my sets, AJ, and all my straights. My bluffs would be small missed flushes. I was trying to get bigger flush draws off with a big raise so that my smaller flush would be good. I should never be check raising a small flush draw there? Can't I get 10s, 9s and ax and some weaker jacks off too? That was my reasoning behind the turn raise.
I don’t want to sound mean, but that’s a lot of planning and assumptions against someone who limp/calls Axs from the button and doesn’t fold ace high to a check raise on the turn.

Against that player you want to bet big and often if you have a good hand and small and infrequent if you have 8-high.

The turn is a prime example. What you can do here is check/call because you’re getting 3.3:1 and have solid implied odds against that kind of player or bet even smaller yourself to give you the right price to draw. What you don’t want to do is to escalate the pot. Frankly, the way you played the hand almost makes villain look like a genius..
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03-24-2019 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Allin-nothingout
I was thinking about the lines I would want to take with my biggest and smallest hands.
Do you think the whale knows this? Do you think he possible notices this? Do you think he even cares if he does? He called you with A7 so clearly no ****s were given by him.

Don't lose yourself money by using strategies that don't exploit a player that has no issues with being exploited. Seeing his hand, not even knowing if this is actually the bottom he calls with, would you consider doing this ever again against him?
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03-24-2019 , 07:57 PM
Ignition being anonymous sort of removes reads but cmon you're playing 5NL and the guy limped the button with a trashy ace. This is pure fancy play syndrome. Bet big with strong hands not garbage.
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03-25-2019 , 03:35 AM
Alright, thanks for the tips guys. I guess I'll just keep it simple while I'm down in 5nl.
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03-25-2019 , 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Allin-nothingout
Alright, thanks for the tips guys. I guess I'll just keep it simple while I'm down in 5nl.
Would you want to play the hand against that guy the same way if it was 5000NL?

Stakes don’t matter, unless we’re talking about population reads or “standard lines” against unknowns. You want to play that hand differently because the way you did is losing money against that player, not because it’s NL5.
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03-25-2019 , 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
Don't iso-raise pre with 8-high OOP vs a whale. You need fold equity to make your bluffs +EV.
I'd be inclined to just overlimp pre and only go for value if I make a hand. Bloating the pot with air vs whales is never gonna be a good strategy. The turn check-raise in this hand is particularly bad. Villain isn't folding Jx or any of the wheel aces (let alone anything better) on that turn. Are you trying to rep A5s/65s/JJ?
Totally Agree. Why is he bloating the pot with Air ?
The Idea that the button is hanging around on the turn probably says he is on
Ax or Jx
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