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05-09-2021 , 10:17 AM
I like live tournament poker. Is it possible to just play live tournaments for a decent earn and become the best in the world.

If it's possible are the probability's of success quite low? I wanna give this a decent shot. Without going online any further and playing and just playing the live game what is needed for success? I've listened to guys like bryn kenney and he says he was in debt for millions at mutiple points in his career. He also put it all on the line with his aussie million winnings into the big london tournament and would of been in debt due to side bets if he lost according to shaun deeb. Is this sort of behavior needed to become the best (taking huge risks like this). I know he buys $100,000 watches and spends heaps of alcohol (not just a beer but expensive bottles).

I can learn a lot from a guy like him (not buying 100 grand watches for myself and expensive bottles of booze). I also learnt a bit from a guy like daniel negreanu who i heard people owe him 10 million dollars. He even gave money to people who wanted to borrow from him when he wasn't a millionare and had like $400 to his name or something. Stu unger also was of the same mentality in some points in his life I have heard. Also heard of stu urinating on dealers which is not something I desire to be doing. (unless its a hot female dealer who tells me she is turned on by getting pissed on off duty in a private room).

I learn't from gus hansen not to play online cash games when your distracted (could be with alcohol and women) and even sam trickett not to play high stakes online omaha when your not good at it with your early live tournament success.

Mike sexton taught me to stay away from sports betting and probably stay away from gold diggers if you still want their company when you got no cash. For me I don't that doesn't apply since I can hit up another girl and be talking to her on the phone or just enjoy staring into another girls eyes in a bar when i want.

Johnathan little on the other hand doesn't just give money to anyone who asks him and spends a lot of time with his family and on his coaching business. Is coaching along with playing live tournaments needed to succeed or can you get by with just playing?

Basically I wanna do things a little differently. I wanna be debt free throughout my poker career. I wanna only play live tournaments. I only wanna play on my own dime not relying on backers. I wanna earn the most and be number 1 on hendon mob. I wanna win the WSOP main event.

Anyone have any advice other than good luck? Am I delusion in proceeding with this goal? I've got modern poker theory and reading that atm writing down whats taught in there soaking up the information. Looking at getting a decent PC with PIO solver and RIO Elite membership. Also looking at exploitive strategy's and not just GTO BOT like lines which some players say to learn to play first before you start GTO. I'm going to go ahead to proceed with this goal anyways and started allready and we will see what happens. Might take 20 years to be number 1 on hendon mob or a similar tracking site or I may not make it all but at least we are going to give it a shot. Anyone else trying to move in this direction?
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05-09-2021 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by WannaBeLag
I like live tournament poker. Is it possible to just play live tournaments for a decent earn and become the best in the world.
If you're asking here, probably not no.

How many live tournaments have you played?
How do you know you want to do this for a living?
You don't seem to know much about it, yet you want to make it your job?

Tournaments have huge variance.
If you only play live tournaments you will have losing years, not days or months, years.
Do you have enough savings to cover a full year in expenses?
What if you go on a 2 or 3 year downswing? Yes this will happen!

How are you going to pay the buy-ins?
Even with a decent ROI of around 50% you would have to play for at least $5000 a month.
Your ROI won't be that high though, since you're asking silly questions in the beginners forum.
You'll be lucky if it's even positive at all.

A losing year might mean you lose 20k+
Will you still be able to eat and pay the buy-ins then?

I'm not saying it's impossible.
I'm saying it's impossible if you're coming here to ask.

Figure out if you even like playing poker first, by the time you know, you won't have to come here asking silly questions.
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05-09-2021 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Yeodan
If you're asking here, probably not no.

How many live tournaments have you played?
How do you know you want to do this for a living?
You don't seem to know much about it, yet you want to make it your job?

Tournaments have huge variance.
If you only play live tournaments you will have losing years, not days or months, years.
Do you have enough savings to cover a full year in expenses?
What if you go on a 2 or 3 year downswing? Yes this will happen!

How are you going to pay the buy-ins?
Even with a decent ROI of around 50% you would have to play for at least $5000 a month.
Your ROI won't be that high though, since you're asking silly questions in the beginners forum.
You'll be lucky if it's even positive at all.

A losing year might mean you lose 20k+
Will you still be able to eat and pay the buy-ins then?

I'm not saying it's impossible.
I'm saying it's impossible if you're coming here to ask.

Figure out if you even like playing poker first, by the time you know, you won't have to come here asking silly questions.
I've probably played close to 100 or less small buy-in live tournaments. Outright won more than 10 but less than 20 tournaments. 100-9 entrant tournaments are all the tournaments I have won.

At the moment the only thing I can think off is just to take my money from my job and just pour it into playing live tournaments. Take the winnings from playing and pour it back into playing live tournaments. If I'm not winning I have to increase my income to pay for the entries and life expenses.

Time is a issue here. Only get so much of that. Can't work 200 hours a week and play 700 hours a week.

I'm aware I could go on a 2 or 3 year downswing.

At this stage I'm out and about and have girls getting angry with me because don't wanna bang them or be their boyfriend or even just chat to them in the club. like two girls getting upset with me because I didn't wanna have a conversation with them or the night before a girl saying she wants to talk to me and then shes just asking why im so pissed off and not wanting to talk to her. I spend a ton on some of them buying them drinks if they ask. other girls want me to buy them board games or food. then you got charities asking ya for cash. its really bleeding me dry. I dunno what do there.

Then I'm getting banned from various facebook groups that people just invited me to because I said a comment on video that might be offensive to someone. I know this is sort of off topic but I may have to give up on all this stuff in order to succeed.

I understand people don't wanna hear silly questions but i'm sort of just frustrated and see some others not succeeding either and them giving up and telling you that you can't do it either.

So if I'm going to need 4 years living expenses and buy-ins to survive I'm just going to have to get it. Then I'm going to have to play well enough through actually playing well and studying and all the other **** like exercise diet sleep and the rest.

I know you are playing online mtts at micro and perhaps higher stakes i dunno for a living from what you write and are frustrated or were with your deep runs but not getting to the top places in high entry fields. Maybe you ain't playing solely for a living I just assume you are.

I'm just pissed off at the whole situation in whats going on. you got charities begging for cash but paying 600k to their ceos who say they work hard blah blah but beg on tv and say kids are starving and need ya funds.

Maybe I should just beg and ask for more from people. Sales people make a ton doing this just marketing selling crap maybe do something for free in the beginning and then get heaps back in return. sort of **** you learn from reading the kabbalah or sum ****. Kinda disgusts me if i went though with doing this **** and I don't have the balls to pull it off.

Last edited by WannaBeLag; 05-09-2021 at 12:18 PM.
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05-09-2021 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by WannaBeLag
Then I'm getting banned from various facebook groups that people just invited me to because I said a comment on video that might be offensive to someone. I know this is sort of off topic but I may have to give up on all this stuff in order to succeed.
Given your history here on 2+2.... did you ever think the problem might be you, and how you may not have the healthiest outlook on how the world spins on its axis?
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05-09-2021 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by King Spew
Given your history here on 2+2.... did you ever think the problem might be you, and how you may not have the healthiest outlook on how the world spins on its axis?
I will answer that question with not answering it since its not related to poker and how people can be winners in poker.
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05-09-2021 , 07:38 PM
Based on these poasts I'd say you have a solid handle on things and are well on your way! Looking foreword to your updates, best of luck to you.

You should definitely start a PG&C thread so we can follow your journey to the top
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