Probably my most frequent search is "flop textures" & "flop types".

I've read most of them: the old very analytical "108 flop types" thread, a COTW thread, and Miller's static/dynamic categorization.

Are there any others anyone can recommend that maybe I've missed?

I ask this because postflop is basically the 'key' to the game.

Thanks.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...tection+bob148

I learned a lot from this thread.

Of course, one can only share information to the extent of one's knowledge on a subject. With that in mind, here's my current understanding:

The more willing the opponent is to fold, the smaller our betsize should be. The more willing the opponent is to raise, the smaller our betsize should be. The more willing the opponent is to call, the bigger our betsize should be.

These facts are important because of the way ranges interact on the flop:

On 443r flop heads up in position on the button vs the big blind, you're going to get lots of action if you bet small, which will make your bluffs less profitable, or even unprofitable if you bet extremely small. In order to maintain a profitable bluffing range on this board, I think you gotta bet at least 3/4 pot on the flop and reevaluate the turn if called with all but your worst 4x in range, as well as 66+.

On 567r flop same situation, you're going to get called and raised often, pretty much no matter your betsize, which is why I bet 1/2 pot here with a very mixed up range, and I'll continue with that size until the river

On T43r your strong hands like QTs benefit a lot from protection, which limits the profitability of the opponent's draws and bluffcatchers, and not so much from future street value bets unimproved. This is why I'll bet pot on the flop here.

Jxx and Qxx flops also allow you to have many hands in your range that benefit a lot from protection, and not so much from future street value bets, which is why it's good to get flop value with a pot sized bet.

Kxx and Axx flops allow you to have many hands in your range that don't care so much about protection because no pair no draw is drawing slim vs your betting range. This is why I bet 1/2 pot on these flops.

Peculiar flops include these types:

Broadway flops? I bet pot.

Jack, Queen, or King high straight flops? I bet pot.

Ten, Jack, Queen, or King high straight flush flops? I bet pot.

These flops are peculiar because they allow my many strong hands to go for much more turn and river value than the Txx thru Qxx flops where protection is the reason to bet bigger.

Honorable mention:

Seven through nine high straight flush flops? I bet 1/2 pot.

That's where I am at the moment with flop classification. I've given up on labels for flops and instead have been thinking about why I'm betting, or more specifically where my ev is coming from.

Gus hansen said this and he lost 20 million dollars online.
won a couple of major tournaments and plays every hand and writes a book about it.

not playing hands is the key to winning in poker. starting before the flop.

Focus on table selection more. playing against players who play too many hands.

Of course there's times to be tight and times to be loose. some players are too tight when all players are 20BB and below deep in a tourny.

agree with the first one.
depends on the last two. if he's raising with the second best hand we should be betting the max.
if hes calling with the nuts we shouldn't be betting at all.
if hes calling with the second best hand then yeah i agree make our bet big.

My default assumes that my opponent is good at poker and I adjust the betsize parameters based on my opponent's mistakes. The stipulations above are not very useful because our opponent's have ranges of hands; developing a strategy based on how the opponent plays one (1) hand is going to lead to bad strategy.

Yeah the best hand and the second best hand. that's the range.

I got it in with TT preflop against QQs. I had the second best hand but poker is a gambling game and im willing to have a 20% chance of doubling up when im 20BB deep in a tourny. I loved it when he turned over QQ just as much if he turned over AK or 99 for the worse hand. if he was willing to gamble with 99 or even 27o i would wish him best of luck and give him props for taking the punt and if he won give him props.

This is not a good way to look at poker analysis.
I can't really comment on this without knowing positions and other players' stack sizes and how far we are from the bubble. Could be a mandatory stack off or an easy fold depending on the circumstances.

two bigger stacks behind me. about 40BBs each. 6 handed. 15 players left. 3 places paid. 1 limper utg with a stack of 30BBs. 1 fold. min raise to 2000. blinds 400/800 50 ante. i have 15,000. raiser has 16,000 (20 BBs). Hero? im willing to punt here. i like to shove to make things easier. if he has JJ-AA i'm still happy. allows me to gamble with some chips to put me in a postion to win some filthy lucre.

Nice shove.

would you have done the same thing to try and have a shot of winning some money? The guy who called my shove with QQs might have won the tourny getting some Mammon to buy himself some beer from the bar giving the bar some profits and the bartender goes down the road and buys herself some makeup for her next shift with the money I payed to enter the mtt.

without reads on anyone? I'm shoving a range like this:

77+, A5s, A4s, A5o, ATs+, AQo+, KJs+.

and calling this range: 22-66, leftover Axs, ATo, AJo, K8s-KTs, K9o+, Q8s+, QTo+, J8s+, JTo, T8s+, 97s+, 86s+, 75s+, 65s, 54s, 43s.

folding everything else, however:

If it was as simple as this? Then we would just shove a ton of hands and pray for a double up. Instead I'm thinking about the value of my stack relative to the field and am considering how my tourney ev will change based on these possible outcomes:

everyone folds - I win a decent pot and increase my tourney ev a little bit.

I double up - I win a big pot and increase my tourney ev a lot.

I triple up - I win a huge pot and increase my tourney ev by a large margin.

I bust out - I lose my whole stack and my ev drops to zero.

Notice that if the preflop raisers 2x range vs a limper is (QQ+) then we should clearly fold as the possibility of busting out of the tourney increases to 80%, which is not an advantageous position, particularly considering that folding is free and maintains our ev at a positive value.