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01-19-2018 , 08:14 PM
Is there a hand analysis subsection, or are they ok to post here? If it's annoying I can stop, I just find it useful.

Did I do anything wrong here? I should preface this by mentioning that I just played a hand with this villain about 30 seconds earlier, in which I 3bet him preflop and he tanked for most of his time then folded. So I had a feeling he may 4bet me a little light believing me to be over-aggressive.

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players

Hero (BTN): 132.8 BB
UTG+1: 230 BB (VPIP: 11.32, PFR: 9.43, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 53)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 24.00, PFR: 24.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A K

fold, UTG+1 raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, CO calls 3 BB, Hero raises to 11 BB, fold, fold, UTG+1 raises to 29 BB, fold, Hero calls 18 BB

Flop: (62.5 BB, 2 players) 5 9 A
UTG+1 bets 21 BB, Hero calls 21 BB

Turn: (104.5 BB, 2 players) J
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets 44 BB, UTG+1 raises to 152.9 BB, Hero calls 38.8 BB and is all-in
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01-19-2018 , 08:31 PM
Sample size is small, but don't 3bet AKo vs. nits who open from UTG

Definitely fold against the 4bet. Best case scenario he has AK/QQ, but the vast majority of the time it's AA/KK and nothing else.

What are you trying to get value from on the turn? Do you think he stacks off KK? As played, you're getting a solid 6:1 and have to hope he sometimes does that with AK.

Fullring lesson #1: Don't play for stacks against nits who open from UTG unless you're close to the nuts.
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01-19-2018 , 08:35 PM
It seems so obvious when you say that, but when I'm in the game all this logic just seems to go out the window.

Also do you think the fact that he was maybe a bit tilted at me is irrelevant?
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01-19-2018 , 08:41 PM
There are several no limit hold emzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz fora. No idea what to do in the hand as you seem incapable of posting a complete HH
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01-19-2018 , 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
There are several no limit hold emzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz fora. No idea what to do in the hand as you seem incapable of posting a complete HH
What more do you want??? Jeez.
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01-19-2018 , 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by OC1012
Also do you think the fact that he was maybe a bit tilted at me is irrelevant?
There is no reason to believe he was tilted at you. There was one hand where he raised, you 3-bet and he folded. For you to determine that he is immediately playing crazy against you just because of that one hand is quite a leap. It is more likely that you are putting on him what your own emotions would be if someone 3-bet you twice. Unless there is a lot more evidence, don't make this type of assumption.
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01-19-2018 , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by OC1012
What more do you want??? Jeez.
Well let me break down your original post

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Originally Posted by OC1012
PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
There's nine players, ok then...

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Hero (BTN): 132.8 BB
UTG+1: 230 BB (VPIP: 11.32, PFR: 9.43, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 53)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 24.00, PFR: 24.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)
Oh wait, we're down to three

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SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Oh wait, two people have bought back in again

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Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A K

fold, UTG+1 raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, CO calls 3 BB, Hero raises to 11 BB, fold, fold, UTG+1 raises to 29 BB, fold, Hero calls 18 BB

Flop: (62.5 BB, 2 players) 5 9 A
UTG+1 bets 21 BB, Hero calls 21 BB

Turn: (104.5 BB, 2 players) J
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets 44 BB, UTG+1 raises to 152.9 BB, Hero calls 38.8 BB and is all-in
And then the rest of the hand is needlessly converted into BB's. POST THE FULL HAND. It does actually make a difference - you may not care that the blinds folded, or if anyone else folded, but their stacks may make somewhat of a difference to how we analyse things. Also, we can all divide or multiply by ten. Don't insult our intelligence.
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01-19-2018 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by sixfour

And then the rest of the hand is needlessly converted into BB's. POST THE FULL HAND. It does actually make a difference - you may not care that the blinds folded, or if anyone else folded, but their stacks may make somewhat of a difference to how we analyse things. Also, we can all divide or multiply by ten. Don't insult our intelligence.
Huh? Do you think I deliberately convert it all into BBs to "insult your intelligence"? It's how PT4 displays it as default. And since it's so easy to multiply by 10, it shouldn't matter really should it?

Anyway, please feel free to ignore all of my future threads/posts. I honestly won't mind.
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01-19-2018 , 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by OC1012
Huh? Do you think I deliberately convert it all into BBs to "insult your intelligence"? It's how PT4 displays it as default. And since it's so easy to multiply by 10, it shouldn't matter really should it?

Anyway, please feel free to ignore all of my future threads/posts. I honestly won't mind.
Ignore him completely. Just follow the rest of the advice here and you'll be golden. Against this guy 3B is pretty much out of the question. Play it much more cautiously than normal given his extremely nitty stats. And when he 4B you should almost certainly be folding here. Post flop you really aren't looking to get it all in here, but your hand is strong enough to be calling his barrels. Just don't be surprised if he rolls over the other two aces...
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01-19-2018 , 10:19 PM
Okay. I think I need to be more nitty. Part of me is still stuck in NL5 mode where most players would raise UTG with any old hand and rarely considered their position at all.

I did actually win the hand but I know being results-oriented is wrong and that IN GENERAL I probably should have made other choices (that's why I posted the hand for analysis I suppose)
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01-19-2018 , 10:57 PM
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Okay. I think I need to be more nitty.
You are not listening.

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Okay. I think I need to be more nitty against players like this that do this from UTG.
There, much better.
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