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11-03-2018 , 06:52 AM
How do we adjust to aggro fish heads up that plays very aggressive and very stationy. Our normal adjustment in 6max is to wait for a good hand and stack them but can't really wait for a hand in HU. How should we adjust our preflop and flop Cbet range IP Vs this type of player
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11-03-2018 , 08:02 AM
If you simply have to play HU for whatever reason, and simply have to play against this type of player, then you do exactly what you do in normal forms of poker - you wait for a good hand and stack them. Here, however, what constitutes a good hand is a lot, lot wider than in forms of poker for those who have the patience to fold more than two hands in a row
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11-03-2018 , 08:36 AM
you can post a few hands, I played HU cash exclusively for 7 years, so Ill probably be able to help you with that
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11-04-2018 , 06:03 PM
Linear 3bets as opposed to polarized, folding bottom of range if they're 3betting a ton.

Go lighter for value both x raising and betting.

Be willing to call down lighter.
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11-04-2018 , 06:08 PM
Why is it a fish when he is aggressive and sticky? Seems like not such a bad trait for HU.
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11-04-2018 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelvis
Why is it a fish when he is aggressive and sticky? Seems like not such a bad trait for HU.
Talking mainly about when these types of players are playing these way in 6max and the game breaks to HU, had this happen a few time recently and done well but feel like I am missing out on some EV
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11-04-2018 , 07:59 PM
V is 317 Hands about 50 HU VP:57 P:36 3B:21 A39% F2Cbet:17

Hand 1
partypoker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 2 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

SB (Hero): $25.10 (100 bb)
BB: $61.46 (246 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with 9 K
Hero raises to $0.50, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($1) 8 9 J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, BB calls $0.50

Turn: ($2) K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.25, BB calls $1.25

River: ($4.50) 3 (2 players)
BB bets $4.02, Hero raises to $10.54, BB folds

Hand 2
partypoker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 2 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

SB: $53.09 (212 bb)
BB (Hero): $32.62 (130 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with 7 A
SB raises to $0.50, Hero 3-bets to $2, SB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4) 3 9 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.21, SB raises to $3.26, Hero raises to $10.50, SB folds

Hand 3
partypoker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 2 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

SB (Hero): $32.11 (128 bb)
BB: $53.08 (212 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with 6 6
Hero raises to $0.50, BB 3-bets to $2, Hero calls $1.50

Flop: ($4) J 5 J (2 players)
BB bets $1.82, Hero calls $1.82

Turn: ($7.64) T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($7.64) 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Hand 3
partypoker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 2 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

SB (Hero): $26.39 (106 bb)
BB: $57.57 (230 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with T 9
Hero raises to $0.50, BB 3-bets to $2, Hero calls $1.50

Flop: ($4) 3 8 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.01, BB raises to $5.76, SB (Hero) folds

Hand 4
partypoker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 2 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

SB (Hero): $31.24 (125 bb)
BB: $54.25 (217 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with T Q
Hero raises to $0.50, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($1) 2 9 J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.30, BB raises to $0.81, Hero calls $0.51

Turn: ($2.62) 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($2.62) Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.64, BB calls $1.64

Hand 5
partypoker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 2 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

SB (Hero): $51.72 (207 bb)
BB: $31.48 (126 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with Q J
Hero raises to $0.50, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($1) Q 2 K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, BB raises to $1.14, Hero calls $0.64

Turn: ($3.28) 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($3.28) 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.99, BB calls $0.99
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11-04-2018 , 08:08 PM
I am guessing that Kelvis...and most of the experienced posters in BQ...take exception to the term "fish". It is a matter of the definition of course.... it would be best if the term was never used again in BQ.
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11-05-2018 , 03:43 AM
When a player bets too much, the obvious adjustment is to let him bet. You should cbet the flop IP less with hands that could be bluff catchers if he bluffs the turn too much when the flop is checked through.
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11-05-2018 , 05:31 AM
h1: both bet and check flop are fine, but if he is over aggro you should be leaning towards checking more. Assuming you only use one sizing per flop, you really need to use bigger sizing on this flop, it's as wet as flops get. Same on the turn, bet larger. River is fine.

h2: definitely flat pre, as noted above you want to 3bet a linear range, but A7s is just too weak for that, you are better off 3betting hands like KTs (which at least make decent top pairs), or just 3bet a tight range - something like 10-12% should be a good default vs such opponent. Also, if he is sticky, use larger 3bet size, Id probably go 2bb->9bb, some players even use larger sizings.

h3: fine

h3#2 (I guess you messed up hand numeration ): if you choose to bet this flop, you should use smaller sizing on such a dry board. However, keep in mind that this type of player will x/fold flop after 3betting extremely rarely (I expect him to cbet 100% of his air), so you shouldnt be stabbing too much.

h4: definitely bet flop bigger, unless you are cbetting all boards for 1/3 with 100% range (which you clearly aren't, judging from other hands), this is a board you want to use large cbet sizing on. Turn might be a bet, assuming he was giving up turns at decent rate. Now, if you choose to bet turn, THIS is a spot to bet small, since his range should include tons of complete air.

h5: same as h1, either check or use bigger sizing otf. Standard play with middle pair is a check, and adjusting to over aggro opponents should include more, not less checking

In general, you seem to cbet way too much (very typical for 6max players, since your cbet in 6max should be much higher) and need to calibrate your bet sizes to board structure and your opponent range better. Work on that and beating weak opponents will become trivial.
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11-05-2018 , 07:24 AM
H1: This is where I am not sure what to do on wet boards Vs aggro and stationy V. Are we better trapping these hands or betting for value as he is calling worse.

H2: what would be our worst Axs we want to 3bet? A9? V is calling very wide seen him have hands like 45o

H5: similar to one not sure if we best checking or betting as both seem to have mertits Vs this type of V but not sure which has most EV

Thanks for the advice
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11-05-2018 , 09:08 AM
spots like h1 and h5 are in general very close between betting and checking and you should generally mix between those 2 plays in a vacuum - however, here you have information that your opponent is aggressive, which makes a check significantly better.

As for H2, yeah, I would 3bet A9s+ and ATo+, maybe mix in some A2s-A5s, A7s is obviously ahead vs his calling range, but doesn't play too great in bloated pot OOP - meanwhile, Axs plays fantastically with low SPR, so a flat will make you much more money.
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11-12-2018 , 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by DSA Stephen
How do we adjust to aggro fish heads up that plays very aggressive and very stationy. Our normal adjustment in 6max is to wait for a good hand and stack them but can't really wait for a hand in HU. How should we adjust our preflop and flop Cbet range IP Vs this type of player
With aggro fish , i always try to play as much postflop i can , and lookin to not move much all ins , as with fish on amount of hands they will always be beatn..
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