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07-11-2017 , 09:20 PM
Was looking for a bit of an experienced view on a play/move ive seen used in tournament play but taking it across to cash games.

So when in position and you 3 bet, get called and miss flop to bet 1/3 pot to test strength of opponent, get called you know there not to strong and if you get raised youve saved yourself a full 1/2 to 2/3 of a normal bet in that situation.
Then on turn as long as turn card is a brick bet big 1/2 2/3 pot, to push them out of hand

Ive started use this a little and it seems work good. guess i need get some volume with it and do a database check to see if it truly works.

Was just wondering views on this tho. i play at 2nl so getting exploited is doubtful, plus if i play this line when i do hit too i balance myself but as it 3 bet pot i think you can get stacks in by river if needed to still anyway even with smaller flop bet.
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07-12-2017 , 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Ajnin
Was looking for a bit of an experienced view on a play/move ive seen used in tournament play but taking it across to cash games.

So when in position and you 3 bet, get called and miss flop to bet 1/3 pot to test strength of opponent, get called you know there not to strong and if you get raised youve saved yourself a full 1/2 to 2/3 of a normal bet in that situation.
Then on turn as long as turn card is a brick bet big 1/2 2/3 pot, to push them out of hand

Ive started use this a little and it seems work good. guess i need get some volume with it and do a database check to see if it truly works.

Was just wondering views on this tho. i play at 2nl so getting exploited is doubtful, plus if i play this line when i do hit too i balance myself but as it 3 bet pot i think you can get stacks in by river if needed to still anyway even with smaller flop bet.
Taking moves from the tournament scene and applying them to cash games isn't usually a smart move. Tournaments and cash games are very different beasts and moves you would make in a tourney would be considered suicide in a cash game and vice versa. There is a reason why not many pros are successful at both - they are very different games with very different strategies and mindsets. Be careful when applying tournament theory to cash games, and be aware that with cash games your opponents can always reload.

That being said, In tournaments its very common for players to fold to a Cbet because your chipstack is limited and in most cases you only have a single tournament life. The same cannot really be said for cash games, where there are more opportunities to take chips away from players later in the street and if you're wrong, you just reload and use that info to play better poker in the next hand. It's great if you have found a table where the players will fold to a turn Cbet and not challenge your line or image, but be aware that it may not always work and that your plays and lines always have to be dependent upon the game you are in at the moment. The same moves at a very different table could end up costing you a lot of money in the long run. For example, if the players at your table pick up on your strategy, they will always expect a Cbet OTF and then raise you OTT with wider holdings knowing that you are more than willing to fold a strong hand OTT because of your line. It makes you more exploitable. If you DO get raised OTT, ask yourself if you are willing to continue with the hand you have. If not, it may be more beneficial to Check/Call rather than bet/fold if you feel your hand may be good in the majority of the situations here.

Being able to adjust and change your play is imperative to playing good poker. Make sure you are thinking about the hand rather than sticking to rules, and you'll do very well.

Good Luck!
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07-12-2017 , 12:32 PM
You're talking about C-betting OP. Here is an excellent COTM on that subject:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...tting-1550652/
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07-12-2017 , 03:36 PM
Betting one third of pot in 3-bet pots is definitely viable, and it's actually very common in higher stakes games than micros. (I've been trying it out at 5NLz with some success too). Some board textures require larger bets though. In addition, you shouldn't just randomly barrel the turn and hope it works. Ideally, your bluffs need some backdoor equity. Try to think about how you play your whole range. You can only play your bluffing combos a certain way if you'd take the same line with your value hands. If your line doesn't make sense (and/or the board isn't scary for villain's range), he won't fold medium pairs, so you'd be better off just not betting the turn at all, if you're planning on giving up on the river. Keep testing it out though. I'm pretty much convinced that small c-bet bluffs will generally show a greater profit than large ones. Janda writes a fair bit about the theory of denying free equity in his latest book, and I think everyone will be downsizing their c-bets in the next 18 months.
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