Hey doods!
Before starting my grind I decided to play some 10NL to test the grounds, I played 500 hands and did great against the regs.
I did the test on Party Spain.
Most of the regs were pretty tight (17-19% VPIP, 3-5% 3B, 85%+ Fold to Steal)
Did a great job exploiting their tightness, but problem I have is against the wild players (Which I noticed are plenty).

I was getting involved in any pot that the whales were, but soon found out that It's not the most optimal decision as at the end I found myself in way too many inflated pots with marginal holdings.

Should I play tight or wide range against the whales? Which would be a more profitable move since I think any hand could be their last.


Overall my Question is, what's the best strat against the wild whales?

Few hand examples to show what players are we dealing with.





I also think I might have butchered the second hand, should have bet more on turn, V is probably not folding a FD even if I bet 1.5pot.

Hand one villain is passive and calls until they have a strong hand when they raise.

Hand two raise enough on the flop to leave you a nice sized shove on the turn (this may be the case). In weak games this is a really easy fold unless you've seen villain take this line with things that aren't two pair or better.

500 hand sample is meaningless, don't assume you're beating all the regs because you probably aren't really making any money from nit regs after rake.

Neither of those hands is you getting involved in a huge pot with a marginal hand and to exploit aggro whales we want to play wider in a lot of circumstances but if you aren't comfortable with what you are doing in common spots I would advise against this.

Thank you so much for the reply!
H1 should I call his raise and check call/fold river? Given that he might be raise calling with AQ? On the other hand he's probably not folding 55,44,33 or A2s/76s pre, meaning I beat nothing compared to his value?

H2 Yeah, now I see that I didn't raise enough on flop as well.


I know 500 is meaningless, just wanted to test the grounds.
My observation for the regs from those 500 hands is that regs folded a ton and bet big when they have a hand.
Would this be a nice strat for me to employ or just mix it up with the whales a.k.a playing a wider range?

The hands were ment to showcase the whales I'm playing against.

Thank you again mate!

Why are you categorising them as a whale? They're not the one stacking off with one pair after you see villain make the "I can beat one pair" turn min raise bat signal.

H1: V VPIP 50%
H2: V VPIP 52%

Also thanks, comments helped me to realise I butchered the KK.
Should've call, and evaluate river.



V VPIP 86%

I would assume that the player pool takes that line with AQ some incredibly low % of the time but I don't know how the games play. Assuming that they are fairly weak passive you are basically always way behind when you get raised on the turn in a situation like this and if villains are doing crazy things they become apparently quite quickly and we can adjust then.

In h1 I think villain is making a mistake pre and on the flop but they are hardly incredibly stupid lighting stacks on fire stupid. I'd say your mistake is worse than anything villain did in that hand. Don't call the raise, fold!

In h2 villain calling pre is a mistake but I don't particularly hate his line on the flop and turn.

In h3 your turn bet size is far too small. In fact your sizing on the flop and turn should be bigger.

Thanks mate!

Yeah, h1 I butchered. But don't I have plenty of EQ to call turn?

R.I.P EV
H3
At that point I was thinking he'd check raise me again, so I tried to bait him, going for more value on flop and turn would've been better, for future reference when I take this line, what sizing should I go for on the river?
0.5 pot or go more in the 0.8+ pot size?

In this one I open in CO vs 3 regs, BB has 91% Fold vs Steal, SB 85% and BUT has 16%VPIP

Feel like I should've bet the flop bigger?
Also ignore the <100BB BI, I still haven't figured the auto-rebuy option on Party LUL

Fold pre

Even vs those stats? I printed money with wide opens from LP vs this particular line-up

and you got lucky in this particular hand.

Jsmall suited is not a hand I would play very often.

Please do not turn this thread into a brag post. Post hands where you have legitimate questions.

The J3 hand obviously depends on BU, but if he’s another hardcore nit, we should keep opening the CO super wide. Not opening ridiculously wide against players with >85% fold to steal in a 5 handed game would be an absurdly big mistake.

As you don't mention a sample size they're meaningless but just because someone folds in this spot a lot doesn't give you licence to open with any two. If your opponents are aware they may well start to 3b you back equally often, and if they're not aware keep it simple

My question from the first pot still stands, I don't mean to brag, wanted some advice on a hand or 2 since the folks helped me a ton or so with the previous hands.
I wanted some help for the flop bet, because I think we can also size it up, but unsure if that would give us the option to get called on river by V's particular hand.


Overall my Question is, what's the best strat against the wild whales?

Thanks!
I'm rarely playing the J3, I decided to include it in my range since a few recs left a couple of stacks and I had to squeeze a bit more often before the game breaks.

Thanks mate! I opted in to play wide there until some of the regs start adjusting or the game breaks, is that good, or I should straight forget about doing that?
Sample is 150+ hands average at this point