Zoom / Rush Poker thread - Page 54 - Beginning Poker Questions

was a tough one. His line confused me - either means he's really weak or really strong, I lean towards strong as a default until i have better information. If I had a better hand maybe id call. dunno. was a weird one thats for sure - thats why i posted it.

I think he was going for the ultimate achievement: the triple check-raise!!!

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04-24-2012 , 01:16 PM

#1327

Suzukishosan

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,303

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Originally Posted by HU4hoes

don't be hating just cz im up money on you

PM me your SN?

Also Queen6suited what's your SN?

I wan't to know how much i'm up on you both

Last edited by Suzukishosan; 04-24-2012 at 01:16 PM. Reason: Or more likely how much i'm down vs you both :-)

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04-24-2012 , 01:27 PM

#1328

HU4hoes

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you play fullring dont you?

we don't play fr but will pm if you play 6max

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04-24-2012 , 01:44 PM

#1329

Suzukishosan

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Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,303

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Originally Posted by HU4hoes

you play fullring dont you?

we don't play fr but will pm if you play 6max

yeah my mistake, i'm so institutionalized at fr i forget 6max exists sometimes!

Anyone know what's going on with this Full Tilt <-> Pokerstars thing, i don't know what to make of it!?

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04-24-2012 , 01:47 PM

#1330

gothninja

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Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 4,425

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Originally Posted by Suzukishosan

Anyone know what's going on with this Full Tilt <-> Pokerstars thing, i don't know what to make of it!?

Don't derail this thread - go here instead.

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04-24-2012 , 02:43 PM

#1331

Suzukishosan

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Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,303

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Originally Posted by gothninja

Don't derail this thread - go here instead.

slap on the wrist

I'd already seen that thread and bar the OP it's useless!

on topic - would rush and zoom combined player pools be possible !?

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04-24-2012 , 02:47 PM

#1332

pocketeights

centurion

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 187

I think I love this game again...

Poker Stars Zoom, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12728512

CO: $7.65 (153 bb)
SB: $2.45 (49 bb)
BB: $3.25 (65 bb)
UTG: $6.37 (127.4 bb)
MP1: $8.09 (161.8 bb)
Hero (MP2): $8 (160 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8

UTG folds, MP1 calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.20, 3 folds, MP1 calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.47) 2

(2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $0.36, MP1 calls $0.36

Turn: ($1.19) 5

(2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $0.91, MP1 calls $0.91

River: ($3.01) 9

(2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $1.73, MP1 calls $1.73

Spoiler:

Get the Flash Player to use the Hold'em Manager Replayer.

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04-24-2012 , 03:19 PM

#1333

gothninja

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Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 4,425

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Originally Posted by Suzukishosan

bar the OP it's useless!

Exactly. It would be a shame if this thread went the same way!

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04-24-2012 , 06:21 PM

#1334

ShotGlass-

journeyman

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 225

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12728812

CO: $4.93 (98.6 bb)
SB: $2.11 (42.2 bb)
BB: $11.77 (235.4 bb)
UTG: $2.87 (57.4 bb)
Hero (MP1): $5.41 (108.2 bb)
MP2: $15.47 (309.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q

UTG raises to $0.15, Hero calls $0.15, MP2 folds, CO calls $0.15, SB folds, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.62) J

(4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, CO bets $0.25, BB raises to $0.65, UTG folds, Hero calls $0.65, CO calls $0.40

Turn: ($2.57) 4

(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.98, CO calls $0.98, BB calls $0.98

River: ($5.51) 2

(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.50, CO calls $1.50, BB calls $1.50

Spoiler:

Get the Flash Player to use the Hold'em Manager Replayer.

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04-24-2012 , 06:24 PM

#1335

raikkonen3

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Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,805

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Originally Posted by ShotGlass-

UTG raises to $0.15, Hero calls $0.15, MP2 folds, CO calls $0.15, SB folds, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.62) J

(4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, CO bets $0.25, BB raises to $0.65, UTG folds, Hero calls $0.65, CO calls $0.40

Turn: ($2.57) 4

(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.98, CO calls $0.98, BB calls $0.98

River: ($5.51) 2

(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.50, CO calls $1.50, BB calls $1.50

Spoiler:

Get the Flash Player to use the Hold'em Manager Replayer.

You have to bet larger ott and get it in on the river, so much missed value there.

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04-24-2012 , 06:28 PM

#1336

HU4hoes

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how you did not shove that river mind f's me

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04-24-2012 , 08:19 PM

#1337

Queen6Suited

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my eyes.

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04-24-2012 , 08:28 PM

#1338

zumby

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the goggles do nothing

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04-24-2012 , 09:56 PM

#1339

ShotGlass-

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Originally Posted by raikkonen3

You have to bet larger ott and get it in on the river, so much missed value there.

Yea I guess, but I wanted to keep them valued in as well, it's tough to find the perfect amount. I'm happy enough that they both called this the way I have been running.

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04-24-2012 , 10:15 PM

#1340

A.Ertbjerg

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Originally Posted by ShotGlass-

Yea I guess, but I wanted to keep them valued in as well, it's tough to find the perfect amount. I'm happy enough that they both called this the way I have been running.

River is clearly a shove. You have about 2/3 pot left.

And turn bet sizing is horrid as well. Why did you bet so small?

And to be fair I'm probably trying to get the money in on the flop when facing a bet and a raise. Better to cooler them then and there than having a card peel off that kills your action.

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04-24-2012 , 10:22 PM

#1341

Mr Beer

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Originally Posted by A.Ertbjerg

And turn bet sizing is horrid as well. Why did you bet so small?

And to be fair I'm probably trying to get the money in on the flop when facing a bet and a raise. Better to cooler them then and there than having a card peel off that kills your action.

x 1 million

If two villains show every sign of wanting to get some money in when flop the nuts, it's pretty bad to slowplay IMO.

EDIT

I mean maybe if we have it absolutely crushed, they probably don't have much and we want them to catch a card...like say KK on KK3 but not here.

Last edited by Mr Beer; 04-24-2012 at 10:28 PM.

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04-24-2012 , 10:27 PM

#1342

ZooomBE

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Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 13

Zoom!

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04-25-2012 , 03:39 AM

#1343

enprinte

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Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 4,095

I know this is Zoom Poker - So I'll probably be playing more Zoom since I'm D/Sing in other games:

Firstly, No more hyper's until the end of next month (May) (sucks that stars doesn't have a ban game feature). So instead:

Offering A Freeroll to All BQ People:

$25 to you
+
$25 to a charity of your choice

If I am spotted playing ANY HUSNG HYPER TURBO or ANY 6-max/9-max HYPER TURBO games.

Doesn't count if you see me playing a scheduled hyper turbo tournament. (I.E Scheduled HU Hypers/FO hypers etc...)

Only applies to stars.

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04-25-2012 , 05:48 AM

#1344

chad0x001

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Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,558

its raining money this morning. 5 buyins up in ~ 2k hands whilst playing 23/18/7 (3bet) went to showdown 27% won $ at showdown 57% won when saw flop 65% and steal %ge from SB and BTN = 100% mu ha ha HA!

Pleased with my stats, pleased with my results - even though they dont matter of course

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04-25-2012 , 06:42 AM

#1345

iflushi

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nice chad is this 10nl post some hands!

its pissing it down in devon also!

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04-25-2012 , 07:28 AM

#1346

Knytestorme

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This is the type of hand I've been having trouble with recently and not sure which way to play it. I don't really think getting it in pre 120+bb deep is optimal but I also can't see the point to calling a raise oop and having to likely c/f the flop...

Villain in this case was 23/20/14 but I'm more talking in generalities over this sort of hand/position/line than this specific hand.

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $3.94 (78.8 bb)
SB: $10.40 (208 bb)
Hero (BB): $6.78 (135.6 bb)
UTG: $6.65 (133 bb)
MP: $12.08 (241.6 bb)
CO: $2.83 (56.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K

UTG folds, MP raises to $0.15, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.46, MP raises to $1.35, Hero folds

Spoiler:

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04-25-2012 , 07:54 AM

#1347

uberkuber

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chad0x00

Weren't you supposed to take a break chad?

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04-25-2012 , 08:04 AM

#1348

chad0x001

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Originally Posted by uberkuber

Weren't you supposed to take a break chad?

I did. Took about 3 days off. read loads, Posted loads, talked with some poker folk on Skype. Back on it.

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Originally Posted by Knytestorme

UTG folds, MP raises to $0.15, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.46, MP raises to $1.35, Hero folds

Spoiler:

I am confident that he does this with a wider range than AA/KK and would be 5 bet shoving. He will call with AK, AQs maybe, JJ/QQ (certainly AA and KK) but I think he will fold a load of hands that he has a flip with (22-TT) no problem taking his equity share away and gettign the pot as it stands. 14% 3bet is pretty wide. Do we have any showdown hands from him? Is he merging *very* wide or (badly) polarized?

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04-25-2012 , 08:11 AM

#1349

HU4hoes

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Knytestorme

UTG folds, MP raises to $0.15, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.46, MP raises to $1.35, Hero folds

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do have a plan for when you get into this situation
like if you are 3betting is it for value or as a bluff? if its value do you plan on calling it off? if no its probably better to flat pre and play some poker postflop

doesnt matter if you are oop
learn to play oop without initiative, you are going to have to learn to play oop when you move up

if you are going to 3bet and fold to a 4bet its much better to just do it with something like 78s or QJo/s

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04-25-2012 , 10:32 AM

#1350

BeerMonster

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 460

Finally caved in and tried out ZOOM. Played one table of 100NL and 2 of 50NL. Clocked up a quick 3K hands and some pretty weird observations.

Saw regs from my regular 100NL at both stakes playing vastly different styles from what they normally do. LAGs nitting it up on a ZOOM table while obviously grinding their usual normal tables. However saw a couple of really nitty regs who were going beserk with 3bets and CR-ing a tonne of flops and firing multiples with air. Not sure what to make of it or what strat is needed with game dynamics and flow essentially removed. Basically broke even so far. Requires more hands, but certainly fun.

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